1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Match Day Thread Millwall FC v Sunderland AFC – Saturday 2nd December 2023 - KO 15:00

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by RTB, Nov 30, 2023.

?

Your Prediction:

Poll closed Dec 2, 2023.
  1. Home win

    27.0%
  2. Away win

    52.4%
  3. Draw

    20.6%
  1. Nacho

    Nacho Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    18,446
    Likes Received:
    29,986
    You mean when the whole team was ****e? Daft to judge a player from that time. Evans looked poor in league one but it wasn't a true reflection.
     
    #41
  2. clockstander

    clockstander Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2013
    Messages:
    22,118
    Likes Received:
    43,103
    Peoples opinion , its not an obsession as you call it., and they are perfectly entitled to theirs as you are to yours.
     
    #42
  3. LD19SAFC

    LD19SAFC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2021
    Messages:
    25,279
    Likes Received:
    35,982
    Did he? He wasn’t great under Johnson but excellent under Neil.
     
    #43
  4. Nacho

    Nacho Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    18,446
    Likes Received:
    29,986
    My recollection is people only starting rating him when we were in the championship and playing well.

    Either way as I say it's daft to judge a player when you've only seen them play in a team that was awful as a unit. Not that he was as bad in midfield as people make out, a lot of the criticism was because he had too much on his plate due to others not doing their job.
     
    #44
    clockstander likes this.
  5. clockstander

    clockstander Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2013
    Messages:
    22,118
    Likes Received:
    43,103
    The longer Evans is missing the better he gets, even so a fit Evans is only a temporary sticking plaster imo., we need better options again imo. (For general imo stands for "in my opinion" , nothing more. <ok>
     
    #45
  6. RTB

    RTB Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    23,976
    Likes Received:
    50,724
    Hmmm not sure that is allowed though :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
    #46
  7. clockstander

    clockstander Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2013
    Messages:
    22,118
    Likes Received:
    43,103
    Thanks mate, your right as usual. <whistle> PS my mental arithmetic was only matched by my spelling pre spellckheck .
     
    #47
  8. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2020
    Messages:
    17,811
    Likes Received:
    45,843
    Personally don’t think O’Nien as defensive midfield is the answer, and I don’t think the club do either. That said, I don’t think there is a reason not to try it at the moment.
     
    #48
    Blond Bombshell, clockstander and RTB like this.
  9. Monkey69

    Monkey69 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2020
    Messages:
    2,025
    Likes Received:
    10,786
    I understand what you are saying and to some extent agree but I just keep seeing us trying to find space in a very congested 18 yard box and feel we need to try and make the pitch wider to create the space for Clarke or Adil etc to operate in. Pritch does this really well and will offers us something different the trouble we have at the moment is our passing and movements seem slow because there is no space for the midfield to operate which is making it difficult to play the quick expansive football we are capable of and that is really down to the manager to solve.
     
    #49
    Robertson and clockstander like this.
  10. FellTop

    FellTop Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2020
    Messages:
    10,557
    Likes Received:
    38,378
    I would play Rigg personally, alongside Neil. The lad has all the talent, and plenty of bite about his game.

    Patterson
    Hume, ballard, Onien, Huggins
    Neil, Rigg
    Ba, Pritch, Clarke
    Burstow
     
    #50

  11. Jarca

    Jarca Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2020
    Messages:
    2,004
    Likes Received:
    5,503
    This is how i'd go, though with Adil in place of Pritch. Don't think we need to drastically change how we play we just need to get back to how we were doing it earlier in the season. Play to our strengths which is a high tempo attacking game.
     
    #51
  12. Montysoptician

    Montysoptician Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    6,368
    Likes Received:
    14,678
    Very similar to what I would play.
    I do think Ekwah needs to play himself out of this poor patch so I might be tempted to have him in instead of Rigg in a double pivot with Dan Neil.
    I agree completely with Ba and Pritchard, Roberts has been very poor and Pritchard was the only one who managed to get between their two banks of four on Wednesday night so I would start him in instead of Jobe.
     
    #52
    RTB, clockstander and FellTop like this.
  13. clockstander

    clockstander Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2013
    Messages:
    22,118
    Likes Received:
    43,103
    Another very good option as usual and just shows we have plenty', its important that we let our homegrown players see they are not forgotten and can stilll can climb that ladder even though we have such a strong and eclectic mix on the books. For me this is a season of organisation, consolidation and growth , a play-off place maybe, a cup run perhaps but nothing more. This is a very tough league and we wont see too many walkovers, nice as they are, its not the same as giving up all hope, its being realistic imo.
     
    #53
  14. Whittylad

    Whittylad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2019
    Messages:
    2,487
    Likes Received:
    10,792
    Great thread as always RTB. Thanks again. Off down early to this one, with son grandson and son in law. Driving due to bloody rail strike. Always seems to be a difficult place to go for us but we are due a response from the players. Head says draw heart says tight away win. Keep the faith lads and lasses.
     
    #54
  15. Robertson

    Robertson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2019
    Messages:
    4,415
    Likes Received:
    15,804
  16. Dorset

    Dorset Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    7,028
    Likes Received:
    6,867
    I expect us to get back on track with a 2-3 away win. Millwall are good in the air, so they will probably go very direct and will be a big threat when taking set pieces, but we create plenty of chances so I'm expecting us to knick this one.

    HWTL
     
    #56
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2023
    RTB likes this.
  17. Nacho

    Nacho Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    18,446
    Likes Received:
    29,986
    Might be the first time he's seen snow, I've got an Aussie mate who never has.
     
    #57
    Young Ted, Robertson and RTB like this.
  18. Monkey69

    Monkey69 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2020
    Messages:
    2,025
    Likes Received:
    10,786
    I am moving to Australia at end of January so this may be last snow I see for a while at least
     
    #58
    Nordic, BackO'TheNet, robinoz and 5 others like this.
  19. Dorset

    Dorset Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    7,028
    Likes Received:
    6,867
    Although I really like O9, sadly, I have to agree with you.
    He has played a lot of games in our midfield earlier in his Sunderland career, but rarely impressed and often gave away stupid free kicks with his petulance and lack of pace.

    IMO, his best position is in central defence.
     
    #59
    Jarca and LD19SAFC like this.
  20. Chunksafc

    Chunksafc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2023
    Messages:
    5,822
    Likes Received:
    15,427
    Great thread @RTB thank you for doing them.

    I'd love to see us try 433 with a few more quicker long balls to get the defence turned and us higher up the pitch.

    I believe we will see a positive reaction tomorrow from the players and staff, it will be tough but I reckon we will knick it 1-2
     
    #60
    Hettonista, clockstander and RTB like this.

Share This Page