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Match Day Thread Millwall FC v Sunderland AFC – Saturday 2nd December 2023 - KO 15:00

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by RTB, Nov 30, 2023.

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Your Prediction:

Poll closed Dec 2, 2023.
  1. Home win

    27.0%
  2. Away win

    52.4%
  3. Draw

    20.6%
  1. Hudson92

    Hudson92 Well-Known Member

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    I do wonder if 433 is the way to go? Tighten up the midfield?

    Neil as the sitter jobe and Ekwah just ahead?

    Or seelt to centre half onein sit with Neil and Ekwah/jobe/Adil more advanced?
     
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  2. RTB

    RTB Well-Known Member

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    Played 19 games
     
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  3. TopCat.

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    Apparently Seelt can play CDM so maybe plonk him in there to play the Kirchhoff role
     
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  4. TopCat.

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    Same squad for tomorrow according to TM. Rusyn is a "doubt"

    No word on Alese/Pembele/Evans/Matete/Cirkin yet
     
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  5. Hudson92

    Hudson92 Well-Known Member

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    Rather that than him playing the Vergini role again :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  6. Oliver's Army

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  7. smithy in nl

    smithy in nl Well-Known Member

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    picture of evens and matete on the grass today on instagram.
     
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  8. TopCat.

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    Evans has been pictured quite a few times, no real updates as to the timescales
     
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  9. smithy in nl

    smithy in nl Well-Known Member

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    aye true.
     
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  10. clockstander

    clockstander Well-Known Member

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    Second option for me all day long
     
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  11. cumbrianmackem

    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

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    Been saying for a couple of weeks that 09 could be the answer to our DCM issue...very few agree apparently.
     
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  12. smithy in nl

    smithy in nl Well-Known Member

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    certainly worth a try I mean he was a midfielder when we signed him.
     
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  13. clockstander

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    Thanks again RTB for a top class summary <applause>, hard to say which team is the most desperate to win here and Milwall are a rugged bunch, but if the team selection is anywhere near yours, I'm going for an away win. It wont make up for the last shambles of a game but it will still be a massive turn around, which overall we all deserve including TM imo. as three games in seven days has been tough on our developing squad and it showed OaU
     
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  14. clockstander

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    A few of us did mate, some think he is a waste of a shirt, just goes to show. If by some miracle he is moved in there I would like to see him relax and stick to football and not get involved in argy-bargy as this is his only problem that I can see, on the other hand he has all the natural assets to make it his spot for the next 5 years . It could even be like getting a young Yan back, one can live and dream. <laugh>
     
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  15. David Moyes' Stupid Face

    David Moyes' Stupid Face Well-Known Member

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    I'd definitely like to see o9 given a try at CDM with Seelt at CB. Can't be any worse than what we've been doing! Maybe something like this?

    --------------Mayenda---------------
    Clarke-------Adil-----Roberts/Ba
    -----------Neil-----O'Nien-----------
    Huggins--Ballard--Seelt--Hume
    -------------------Patto------------------
     
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  16. Monkey69

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    For me I think tactically we have gotten it wrong in recent weeks, I have mentioned before about Hume tucking into midfield which means that Roberts has no overlapping fullback. hat means opposition teams can condense into the edge of the box as Roberts and Clarke almost always come inside. Clarke rarely uses his overlapping full back and will ignore him more often than not which again contributes to what we are seeing lately.
    I think Dan Neil should sit as the holding midfielder like he was at end of last season and release Trai to his more accustomed full back role which will give us more width and options in final third. That said I am hopeful of a good result as even though our last 2 performances have been poor we have still threatened so maybe tomorrow is the end of this unusual poor run of form
     
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  17. Nacho

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    I've said the same thing for ages, I'll stick up for him as a CB when people say he's **** there because it's clearly not true, but I've always seen his long term future as a deep lying CM. I think he'd do a cracking job there but I'm not sure we'll see it happen.

    Maybe if Seelt does so well that he surpasses him at CB it might.
     
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  18. Sour Patch

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    Millwall are another team we should be beating, won 2 of their last 10 and are the third worst home team in the league picking up only 7 points at home. They have changed manager recently and from what I can tell they aren't playing the long ball and physical football they were playing under Rowett so I think that will benefit us.

    Would like to see us playing with a lot more speed and purpose. Would also love if we could play to our strikers strengths, if Mayenda is playing get the ball in behind and let him chase, if Hemir is playing get the ball wide and put some good deliveries in.

    Going with a 1-1 but a much better performance.
     
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  19. LD19SAFC

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    People seem to be obsessed with O’Nien playing in midfield. He wasn’t good enough there in League One, never mind the championship.
     
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  20. clockstander

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    We would still be weak in midfield thats why I suggest a 3/5/2 or 4/3/2/1 depending on opposition it will give us a more solid defensive base, and more options personnel wise while still retaining some shape. We are far too vulnerable atm to counters as we have seen, so we need to bring Seelt into our line up in his natural position, without loosing O/9's massive pitch wide contribution, he is in my mind the best all round player at the club and should be first name on the team sheet. I also think we are asking far too much of Dan Neil an even more exciting player as the attacking mid field player he was alongside Evans..
    On Clarke he may look selfish to some, but his main threat is when he turns back towards his own goal dragging defenders out of position, he then makes a turn one way or another wrong footing the defenders, only Pritchard reads this and that is why they are so dangerous together once we have his full back overlapping ( with O/9 covering the run ), he can use three options not just the one. For me we have asked far too much of Clarke recently with so little coming down the other wing and that is why I think he could do with some help if not rest . He is as we tend to forget still a very young footballer, and far too valuable an asset to see burnt out because of poor team strategy.
     
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