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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by bradymk2, Oct 21, 2022.

  1. Ric Glasgow

    Ric Glasgow Well-Known Member

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    Loads of electric buses in Glasgow nowadays,I think they cost about £400-£500 k....

    Shocking!!!
     
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  2. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

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    A set of replacement batteries in a La Ferrari. £500k I’m told, need replacing between 15,000- 20,000 miles
    ****kkkkk:emoticon-0104-surpr:emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  3. Heimdallr

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    I've worked in the oil industry most of my adult life, so can't harp on to anyone about the environment. But I do my own thing to try and look after the planet... Recycle plastic, that is probably shipped to Africa and burnt on a fire by children, not throw **** in the sea etc. Having an electric car saves me money on road tolls, insurance, tax incentives, half price servicing costs and now they're cheaper than diesel/petrol cars. My arguments are mainly that they're not as difficult to own at all, if you can charge overnight at home and actually save time and stress if you use the tech correctly.

    The latest Chinese models, such as Nio, have a system where you pay a monthly subscription for your battery and it gets changed out when necessary. Once solid state batteries are developed more, which can be recycled easier, this will probably become more common. It won't be liked by those who want to pay a one off cost and then nothing else and that's fair enough.
     
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  4. Howdentiger2

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    I think it should be down to personal choice all round, I'm not a fan of being forced down routes etc. if it works for the individual/family then go for it I say. I've had a fair few fully electric cars from BMW for extended periods of time to try out and have a play with etc and overall I do like them, the acceleration for example just can't be matched. But it just feels so lifeless and soulless, but I'm a huge driving fan so enjoy the noise and mechanical side of things.

    As you say and as I did earlier, if you can charge at home and or work, plus do smaller journeys ( sub 200/250miles ) for 90% of the time then EVs definitely start to become a great option
     
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  5. dennisboothstash

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    That’s changed now
    I’m passing there regularly and it was portakabins for a few weeks but back to normal now
    Miserable ****s
     
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    friend of mine has a hybrid. reckons he gets 65mpg. driving and braking keeps the battery charged.
     
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  7. DMD

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    I had a car a few years back that was very close to that. Had the investment in research not been pulled, many cars would be there already too.
     
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  8. TIGERSCAVE

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    Aaaah but its the diesel in you yacht thats doing the damage SW3....:emoticon-0100-smile
     
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  9. TIGERSCAVE

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    I've always had this question in my mind re EV's. The government in this country makes £1 litre plus VAT on diesel and petrol. This bank rolls so much of what this country uses to survive. Could the country survive without this revenue. How long before EV's pay road tax and cars and drivers are charged per mile they do. Its well documented that EV's damage road surfaces far more than conventional combustion cars.
     
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  10. dennisboothstash

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    Heavier = more damage (and multi storey car parks can’t handle all EVs)
     
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  11. Sir Cheshire Ben

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    I can’t foresee a time when a fair & adequate charging infrastructure will be in place.
     
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  12. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

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    very very true…I saw a stat the other day…the boating industry does far more damage than automomotive, despite cars outnumbering yachts 1000:1

    But it’s fun :emoticon-0120-doh:
     
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  13. Howdentiger2

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    2 huge problems straight off the bat are where and how do people charge who live in either high rise buildings/flats/apartments and those with no off street parking?. That's just 2 easy ones that nobody can answer.

    The biggest one I see though is, where does all the extra draw to the grid come from?
     
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  14. Sir Cheshire Ben

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    100%
     
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    Ditto, and as with every car I've had I drive it hard. :emoticon-0125-mmm:


    The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
     
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  16. DMD

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    All those charged up on a windless night are all running on (so called) fossil fuels at the minute anyway, and that's not liable to change any decade soon. :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  17. TIGERSCAVE

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    My sister lives in London, In Balham... nice street, but they are typical mid terrace houses. Its a first come first served parking area. Sometimes, she has to park in an adjacent road where she can find a space. So issues, 1. length of extension lead. 2. theft, someone unplugging and using your juice and 3. Health and Safety. Someone is gong to be claiming for falling over an extension lead. Don't lets start about city centre living in apartment blocks.
     
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    A lot of big city councils are starting to install charge points in street lamps.
     
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  19. Heimdallr

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    Supermarkets, malls and parking garages installing charging points. They install 60-120kw charging points which charge 80% of a battery in about 45 minutes. On a 500km reach, that's 400km loaded up. Most ppl go shopping once a week and most don't drive over 400km a week.
     
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  20. Amin Yapusi

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    I think only someone who has an agenda against them would try and spin them as the worst of both worlds.

    I’m in a hybrid, I do all my regular weekly driving (30 miles a day) on electricity for almost **** all £, and also not adding to local pollution. Then I have unlimited range with petrol when needed.

    Also it self regenerates so well, even on an empty battery I still do over 50% of my mileage on regenerated electricity and get 80+ mpg returns.

    It’s at its worst on a motorway, where I’m disappointed to get a 55mm return.

    They are the best of both worlds and the only way I can see mass adoption working.
     
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