This clamour to change either personnel or manager is be coming tedious imo. They all disappear when we win but are straight back on it when we get beat. Do all clubs have this strange mix of 'supporters'. We all want success but some want it yesterday.
I want us to be at our best and I know that squad is far better than what we’re currently watching.. So what’s his plan? Play the same Xl week in week out and continue to drop points then say oh well at the end of the season? Is that what good managers do just continually putting out the same team when they lose? Not settling for poor performances and persisting with things that don’t work when we have an abundance of players on the bench that are good enough to play (yet ironically can’t persist with the same striker). By that I mean actually giving others a fair chance not rotating the same position 3 times in one game giving a few subs 10 mins here or there. Hume playing inverted so not only is Roberts isolated all game but when the CB alongside him can’t defend as soon as the possession is turned over we’re on the back foot. I said it yesterday and I’ve just seen their second goal you couldn’t script it any better. Jobe isn’t a 10 and Ekwah clearly can’t play DM yet we’re over a third of the way through the season playing the same midfield week in week out. My biggest gripe is how stubborn the manager is. It seems as though TM along with most of our fanbase are happy with a mid table finish so what do we have to lose by trying new things? We’re losing every other game anyway.
Stand by my opinion win lose or draw mate. Call out the same issues week in week out. The narrative that people have to be happy even when we’re sh*te is the only thing becoming tedious. Say anything remotely negative and you either have an agenda, aren’t a proper supporter or you’re fickle
I don't think that fans are happy when we get beat - I'm certainly not but I'm trusting the club to get it right on the pitch. Trusting Mowbray or whoever follows him to get the team firing and probably do a better job than either you or I. In my opinion I don't think we're that far away and don't forget these are kids some of whom are playing at this level for the first time - it will come
" .... most of our fanbase are happy with a mid table finish." See, that's when I can't take you, or others who say that, seriously. Just because people don't want Mowbray out, O'Nien shown the door, Jobe rested or shifted or Bennette, Ba and Seelt thrown in doesn't mean we're gullible idiots who don't want progress, the PL and success. What happens if the changes you're demanding don't work, do you have another change of tactics and personnel or do you go back to what had us in the top six? Is chopping and changing guaranteed to work better than the team building up understandings over a period of games? It might work on football manager but these are real people, not chess pieces to shuffle around.
So all the goals we concede from set plays are down to o9? Are you being serious? So just a big lump in the team and all our problems will disappear. We are trying to play a progressive style of football and build from back and have mobile footballers. O9 is one of them, as is Hume, as is ballard. Stop talking ****e
But it’s quite obvious, even on here..? After every defeat it’s always something along the lines “last season was the worst thing to happen because now everyone expects play offs when mid table would be great.” If you’re winning every week then fair enough, if you make changes and it doesn’t work then revert that’s fine. But we aren’t winning every week, we’ve just been beaten comfortably by a newly promoted team who were 21st going into the game. We’ve lost half nearly half of our games this season it’s not really considered a knee jerk reaction at this point. We aren’t far away at all but leave it as it is and we’ll underachieve this season imo and personally I think anything outside of play-offs can be classed as that. I’d rather take a gamble when things aren’t working than refuse to make changes because inevitably that’s what gets managers sacked.
If you’re a towering CB or striker, someone you’d expect to attack set pieces, which Sunderland player defending that piece are you targeting? The 6’2 natural defender or the 5’9/5’10 “CB” who can’t mark his man nor win a header? People are talking about the other CB’s we’ve signed as if they have no f*cking legs. They’re professional footballers they can kick a football just like O’nien whilst not being a liability at the back.. It’s actually bizarre that you watch us concede so easily week in week out then say nothing needs to change. Anyway it didn’t need to descend into a to and fro about O’nien, I’ve made my feelings clear on it and they won’t change so it’s pointless bringing it up all the time. Simply put without slinging sh*t I think he needs to make some subtle changes and I’d be changing the players I see as the weaker links in our team. Others might think that’s other players and that’s fine, he could switch the DM and it could benefit O’nien - hopefully he changes something to rectify the issues we’re having.
Maybe people are seeing the bigger picture and actually seeing where we were 2 seasons ago and then all the crap reaching right back to the Premier League. Yes we're not too far away from being a seriously good side but let the players evolve into the players we want to see week in week out. Look at Neil, he's already a better player than he was last season for me. It won't happen overnight but I really believe that it will happen
Got a very late call up and went to Plymouth for the day and night. Canny day, great fans, cracking night, spoilt by a bit of footy in between In all seriousness didnt think we played well. Just seemed off our level across the park. Decision making in particular from forward lads wasnt great. Just my opiniom but Ekwah isnt playing how we can at the minute, nor is Roberts. I would be taking both out personally. The thing with that though is it is just my opinion. I have read a fair bit on here, all opinion. I dont mean to sound arrogant here, but coaches will know better than us. They will see players in training all week, who is responding to the ask, who is not quite at it. We dont. Clamouring for change is easy, but if, for example, Ba is training badly (not saying he is, but as an example I would like to see him in) then he does not deserve a slot. When I saw the 11 yesteday I was pleased. I suspect most were. They didnt play well, but that is part of the game. I thought Plymouth actually did more than us first half. I see people questioning Mowbray again on here. That is fine, opinions again, but I do often wonder who people are clamouring for in his place.
I'd guess, last season, many people would've been clamouring for Kompany. After all he's exactly what we're supposed to need ... .... young, ambitious, done it all, taught by the best in the world, huge contact diary, etc etc etc. Yet his players are an absolute shambles who've lost seven on the bounce at home ... ... if that was Mowbray this place would be absolutely ridden with pitchforks.
Absolutely. Kompany is being found out in a very big way. I keep banging on about this but these wonder kid managers from the continent arent all they are cracked up to be. Many of them fail. You would think they play a different game or something the way they are fawned over. Mowbray isnt perfect, but no manager is, but right now it is a case of be careful what you wish for if you fancy him gone. We are not the prospect for coaches some seem to think we are, we dont have a good track record of giving managers time.
Thing is if we don’t think something is working we as fans can have a moan about it on a forum. Me moaning about freshening the team up has absolutely no baring on what the club does. I trust the club to do the right thing and they’ve proven not to do anything without a proper plan in place. I think the clubs in safe hands and will continue to push forward.
He played well and looked a lot fitter than he did earlier in the season, he adds a calmness around the box , but it was one of those days. On another day no one could have complained if we had scored 5 or 6 over the 90 minutes . This is a time for calm assessment and that's exactly what I think we will get . OaU
I didn't say that ... just that he didn't do 'nowt'. And seriously, if you think our standards are rock bottom I'm just speechless tbh.
Still wouldn't mind seeing Clarke/Roberts switch wings during a game to test the fullbacks and perhaps give a little variety
