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WAR! What is it good for?

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  1. duggie2000

    duggie2000 Well-Known Member

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    That is the reality of my life from start of attending Sec Mod School School to and including the day of my motorbike accident that almost killed me, like the film Sliding Doors

    I can go back to certain events, take a different decision and see how my life would have panned out as if I had actually lived that different life, sometimes drives me crazy because following the different routes I would not be where I am or had the children that I actually had

    I do like some of your videos
     
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  2. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ...
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    Sounds a bit like that night I had with the Pussy Cat Dolls - leaving Nicole Scherzinger 'till last was not my best ever decision ... but it all worked out in the end ...
     
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  3. aberdude

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    Divide and rule…..George soros follow the money……stop the boats ? Probably easier to stop mr soros instead

     
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  4. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    She believes in God. Lots of people do, and they're not all idiots. Religion can be problematic, but faith in a God of some kind can be a guide and a comfort in a world run by dangerous lunatics.
     
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  5. Solid Air 2

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    i replied disagreeing with your take on it but probably tainted by my complete disdain for what is done in the of religion .
     
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  6. Citizen Kane.

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    Not the Christianity of circa 400-1850CE.

    It took the multi generational battering of the Reformation, Enlightenment and rise of the Nation State for the Church to stop persecuting or outright slaughtering anyone who didn't agree with it.
     
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  7. aberdude

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    the irony <laugh>
     
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  8. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    This is true. <laugh>
     
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  9. aberdude

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    probably the only truth the church got……..tragic corporation
     
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  10. Citizen Kane.

    Citizen Kane. Well-Known Member

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    True but pretending there are no genuine issues with "other" people in "other" places is both naive and an equally lazy approach to solving society's problems.

    Ideally, you are right - the best course or action is for everyone to get together and find a common path. But the question is what do we do if that common path cannot be found? Often, not for lack of love or money, it cannot. At that point, are we ready to stand up and simply say 'until here, but no further'?
     
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  11. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    Not completely, but even if it was that isn't how she sees Christianity. In fact, many of the values in Christianity borne out of what I posted in that last paragraph she would regard as woke. And she didn't see it in Islam either.

    Faith isn't the problem here, it's the ppl who have influenced (dare I say indoctrinated her) to use it as a political view of the world and others. So when she was a child it was Wahabi doctrine with fundamentalist intolerance towards infidels. Now she seems to have discovered Christianity from neo-cons who see Islam, Putin, China and woke (whatever the fck that means) as a threat that needs to be overcome.

    She talks about being a non-muslim giving a speech in a muslim country, she should try driving a car across the bible belt with 'man love' written across it like Clarkson and Hammond, or walking through Hebron shouting 'free Palestine'. And let's see how far she gets without a bullet in her head.

    I would've applauded her if she'd spoken about how Christianity had changed her outlook on her own personal life and how people of all faiths should re-ignite spirituality and the essence of their faith over fundamentalist dogma. To look for our obligations to each other as much as our obligations to God and that is what Christianity has taught her and what ppl of other faiths should try and connect with. But she didn't do that. For me, she's learned nothing.

    There's plenty of good in ALL faiths, but not the politicised version she espouses. Here's a real message from someone who understands faith and its purpose. It's a small example of a wider belief. I listen to Twerski a lot on so many issues around faith and if more ppl of faith were influenced by people like him, the state of religion and those who follow it, and the wider world, would be in a far better place. Compared to him and his message, she's a mere philistine.

     
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  12. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    I am a person of faith mate. I believe in God.

    You've misunderstood what I've posted and skipped over my use of the word, warped.
     
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  13. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    Where have I pretended there are no genuine issues?

    I just don't subscribe to her view of how to deal with them. In fact I'd go as far as to say her views on much of what our actions have been towards the "other" have failed at best and made the situation far worse.
     
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  14. Citizen Kane.

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    We've finally found common ground <yikes>

    I'm also a big fan of Rabbi Twerski and his very unique blend of psychology and religion.
     
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  15. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    My work is done here.
     
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  16. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    If it wasn't religion, it'd just be something else, it makes a convenient excuse to be a ****.
    On it's plus side, it was the driving force behind the end of slavery.
     
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  17. Treble

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    Oh come on, there's plenty we have common ground on.

    Twerski is profound. I'd say he tries to bring psychology and spirituality to religion and simply says, I don't have all the answers but here's what I think.

    He always focuses on bettering one's self and self improvement (rather than the other <whistle>) and that is what religion imo should be about.

    His views on the decisions we make and the importance of how we make them rather than the outcome is very appropriate to a lot of what is discussed on here.
     
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  18. Citizen Kane.

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    There you go, arguing about how much we argue about <laugh>

    Totally agree re his approach. It was and still is ahead of its time.
     
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  19. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    Go in peace to do the Lord’s work mate <peacedove>
     
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  20. aberdude

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    Your fking nuts <laugh>
     
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