First thing that occurred to me was 'where is the best place to take a person with such injuries?' - if he survives I'm sure he'll be pretty grateful for the treatment from medical staff - it makes no sense at all to think he was taken into the hospital and then executed there ...
I don't know what happened to the injured hostage. Lets be clear Hamas shouldn't have kidnapped them in the first place and they wouldn't need treatment for a fcking gunshot wound if they hadn't. Taking them to a hospital though is nowhere near any proof that Hamas is using it as a base ffs. I'll add this. A week ago on Saturday, the commander of the IDF claimed that they'd spoken to the Al Shifa hospital and said they would help evacuate the babies to another hospital the NEXT day. It was on all the main news channels. I then watched the director at the hospital live on another news report (which wasn't reported anywhere else) stating that NO ONE had contacted them from the IDF to offer any assistance. He had no knowledge of this. I thought ok, let's see what the truth is here. Wait until Sunday and we'll see who's telling the truth. On Sunday fck all happened and any claims of the IDF evacuating babies disappeared from the news like a fart in a galestorm in the days after that. In the end it was the Red Crescent along with the U.N. who evacuated those babies a week later.
Again - agree with every word - Hamas are guilty of war crimes for the events of 7th October - but wherever they've put tunnels etc does not excuse / justify the subsequent civilian death toll and it certainly doesn't mean that the hospitals and medical staff were complicit in assisting Hamas in their aims etc
At this point, I rate the IDF as about as credible a source of information as Hamas. Or the Daily Mail.
so not like ISIS then as they would all have died or fled in 2007. Let me make this clear i have total contempt for Hamas and held that view prior to Oct 7 but my point was the regarding the incredibly clumsy PR of the Israeli spokesmen .
Even if Hamas had the $$$$ to build one. How long do you think it would have lasted in the open and in range of Israeli missiles ? I'm not saying it's right to embed military hardware in civilian areas, but how else do an armed resistance operate against an illegally occupying force, if they are in the open, they would have been wiped out years ago.
Biggest frustration for me are the attempts to justify airstrikes on Hospitals and UN shelters on the grounds that Hamas may or have constructed tunnels underneath them - for a start, who could have stopped them doing it? - they govern in Gaza and their 'police' are unlikely to be your friendly neighbourhood coppers on the beat. Doctors and UN personnel in the Hospitals have maintained that Hamas are not active in the hospitals themselves - so they must be coming and going from outside of the main hospital(s) - perhaps from structures that the Israeli regime has referred to as 'adjacent' to hospitals when accused of targeting them - what's readily apparent is that the Israeli regime is at great pains to ensure that there is no contemporaneous reporting or observation of what it is claiming to uncover - that lack of objective transparency has to raise suspicions about what is being drip fed to the outside world. No captured or dead Hamas fighters in these tunnel complexes and minimal recovered weaponry? Do me a favour, Jeff.
Watching footage of hostages being brought into Al Shifa by armed Hamas men, all of whom are in civilian clothing. You can see the looks of shock and bewilderment on the faces of the doctors and attendants. They must be thinking "what the hell have you done?"
Fingers crossed this deal is done, there's some ceasefire and a hostage exchange goes ahead. Every life saved...
Looks like a ceasefire may be agreed tonight. Not sure on the exact number of Israeli hostages who will be released, but news is that 150 Palestinian hostages will be released, which are likely from these ppl below who I posted about a week before the Oct 7th attack.
Sky have just said the same I was thinking it would be 100, but then I'm thinking 60+ have been reported as killed in bombings, so that leaves 180 and I imagine Hamas want to still hold on to a significant number. It's brutal for families of all concerned thinking, will my loved one be those being released, and the emotions they must be going through - and will go through moreso if it isn't. I'll add it's the same for Palestinian families in the West Bank whose family members have also been taken randomly in midnight raids and stuck in jails without charge.
Unimaginable torment for the relatives of those held ... particularly knowing that some have been killed in airstrikes etc and feeling guilty for hoping that it's not your loved ones ...
300 Palestinians to be released in exchange for 50 Israelis. I thought we all believed in proportionality?
With close to 6,000 dead Palestinian kids since Oct 7th - probably not the best time to pontificate on quotas tbf ...
You've just proven my point. It's only ok to pontificate on numbers, stats and quotas when it's Israel, but the other way round? Yeah sure, 1027 prisoners in exchange for Gilad Shalit seems reasonably proportionate.
Have you considered it might be a percentage of the hostages held by each party? Isreal seem happy with the numbers.
Can you give some insight as to why Israel has been incarcerating Palestinian women and kids in the first place? - given that the majority appear to have been residents of the West Bank where Israel has no legitimate grounds to be in the first place under International Law, I'm somewhat baffled ...
