WWI, when the working class of Europe died in the mud, to protect the interests of the ruling classes. Then returned home to a life of grinding poverty and hardship. Lest we forget
Yup, exactly the same. A war on the lying **** of "Weapons Of Mass Delusion". Blair was, is and always will be a ****ing ****.
Anyone wanting dead Ukranians Russians Jews or Palestinians has no idea who benefits from all of these conflicts. Bombing Muslims then inviting them in as refugees is just plain ******ed
Fun fact Palestinians loved Hitler & hated Jews before the State of Israel was even created . https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...-germany/0000017f-ef6e-d0f7-a9ff-efefa25a0000 Never-before-seen Photos of Palestinian Mufti With Hitler Ties Visiting Nazi Germany The six pictures of Haj Amin al-Husseini visiting Nazi Germany are opening on the auction block at $10,000
Are you competing with the dopey sod I've quoted below in the daftest post to change the topic contest? Well as I never have been, that must have been you, and quite rightly too looking at the racist bullshit you post. No wonder you're trying to shift the topic.
To counter this , who is saying Hamas figures are false ? Who says Isreal are warning civilians ? Who says Hamas are shooting civilians , using people as human shields etc Hamas are , of course , a terrorist group. However , the IDF and Isreal aren’t exactly innocent in their actions . A lot of information that is being accepted is one sided , depending on your political slant. Hamas need to give up arms, stop murdering civilians and release all hostages. Isreal need to ceasefire, stop murdering civilians , open borders and allow aid . As DD says , who benefits from these ‘conflicts’ ? Certainly not civilians .
Even the 'evidence' Hamas presents shows that they are lying. There are videos of them shooting civilians, as well as as comments from other civilians too. Israel are not murdering civilians. The civilians are killed because Hamas put them around the military installations. If Israel stopped attacking Hamas, Israel would no longer exist, as it is the stated aim of Hamas to wipe them of the planet, and then to start on the rest of us. I agree, teh civilians are getting a really ****ty deal, but their best hope is that Hamas is ended, and not replaced by something even worse.
There’s a lot of background to this , from biblical times , through wars , British territories etc It’s not easily resolved due to claims and counter claims as to who has the right to which land etc
There is counter information that disputes that . But again, it depends whose source you trust . Isreal are most definitely killing civilians. Wether targeted or collateral damage and if there are IDF ground troops in Gaza etc , they are definitely murdering civilians Hamas may inflict some damage like they did on 7 October , however , they will never defeat Isreal . Israel’s defence system wouldn’t allow the required force to wipe them out . Agreed . But can’t see it due to religion ! The blame for this can be pointed towards Kissinger and his cronies .
I can’t argue further on this as it’s far too complex and goes deeper than borders etc But who is shaking the jar ? What do they gain?
Civilians are dying, but in your earlier reply you claimed they were being murdered by Israel. I'd say the responsibility sits squarely and firmly with Hamas. Israel are escorting the civilians out of the area. It is Hamas that are herding them back in. There is no dispute about that, and there is clear evidence of the other aspects I mentioned. I'm not one eyed and saying Israel are wholly innocent. There are serious questions relating to how much they knew before the event and allowed it to happen. The fact that reporters for international media outlets were embedded with the rapist, terrorists during the assault speaks volumes, especially given Israels pride in its defensive set up.
I totally agree with your words. I think the map falls into the grey areas, where each side can produce 'historic' evidence to justify their claims, and I certainly struggle to call it for either side if it's the bigger picture in question. What's clear to me, is that the atrocities during the recent periods sit squarely with Hammas, no matter what the claimed historic justifications. I think the fact that the other Arab states are openly saying they don't want them because they're **** all but trouble, and the west are foolish for taking them in speaks volumes. Just to be clear. in this context 'they' are Hamas, but it's hard to tease them out from the general Palestinians.
