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Who is in Charge

Discussion in 'Gillingham' started by allbluelenny, Nov 7, 2023.

  1. allbluelenny

    allbluelenny Well-Known Member

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    Hi all supporters, does anyone know why PS is still a part of GFC? I thought there was an asking price to purchase and Mr and Mrs G paid that fee. Jacket has always been PS right-hand /hatchet man and now we have a new Manager????? he still has to go back to Jacket???? so who is in charge ????. Jacket will as it seems be loyal to PS.
    There has been some backstabbing to get rid of Harris, it seems by Jacket.
    Mr G says PS is still part of the backroom staff. He only wants to line his back pocket and what does he know about football????, Although he did save the club from going under, which as far as I can see is the only thing he has ever done for the supporters and the club.
    He has recently made it clearly known he wants rid, so why is he still hanging on????
    Both PS and MR G are property developers, so is there something going on that supporters are not aware of?
    Is the ground at MEMS worth 40 million a 50/50 share between PS and Mr. G????
    I like most supporters thought, that when Mr and Mrs G took over it was the floodgates that were opened for a possible future that I and many other supporters could never have ever thought of for the club.
    I guess I have opened a can of worms and there will be some who know the truth and some who know stories.
    BUT for me, it is all about the club, a club I have supported for over 60 years and I hope to support it till the day I go to my grave.
    And hopefully a legacy for the new and young supporters.
     
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  2. alwaysright

    alwaysright @ Very Angry Camel

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    allbluelenny - I think I am in love with you ... what is your address - I want to send many Christmas presents ((( or just give me your bank details for a 'transfer' -- just don't let Scally see them ! )))
    For clarification - Scally saved the Club by persuading creditors to take 16 pence for every £1 they were owed. Scally only used £1 (one) of his own money to buy the Club - which he bled dry in a tax haven - then manipulated the 'ownership' into his name... He almost destroyed GFC before Galinson... Scally has kept a (probably ) significant minority share in the Club - which I bet he hopes will still be developed into housing - allowing him to make more £millions from the cashcow......

    ....... as for who is in charge - well - Clemence is no more than a personal fitness coach for a group of people (some of ) who play football.... He'd get a better salary as a blacksmith - sharpening the knives used for back-stabbing.....
    .... Merry Christmas x

    ps - I too have supported GFC for 60 yeaers .... are you my twin ?
     
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    allbluelenny Well-Known Member

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    My Grandad took me to my first game at the very young age of 2 in 1960. And it has stuck with me through thick and thin. I had the pleasure of trialing for the MKB in the mid 70,s where I met Mr Bruce and I have some contact with him out here as he has a property in Vale do Lobo. I remember PS saving the club, I think the only thing I can thank him for.
    Its the fact he categorically stated I WANT OUT, but he is still hanging on and his henchman is still there.
    We will see what happens, I have started following Chatham, who I did play for many moons ago, just to make sure I have a team in the Medway towns to support
     
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  4. The Gills PegLeg

    The Gills PegLeg Rock 'n' Roll Football

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    Ok I can answer this to add some clarity to the position.

    PDPS is a minority shareholder. He is believed to still own in the region of 25-30% of the football club which frankly makes sense when you think about it. BG & SHG had no previous involvement with running any sports teams before buying Gillingham FC, it therefore made sense to have someone still at the club who knows how things run, after all, PDPS has been involved in professional football now for 28 years. For the club's sake it also makes sense to have multiple directors, the fact we continued to effectively be a one man band for as long as we did is quite worrying, but it gives the club a security blanket now. Should BG & SHG decide to walk away, there is still a director there to take over the running of the football club should it be required. As far as I'm aware however, I don't believe PDPS ever wants to be the top guy any further.

    Now onto what actually occurs at the football club. Joe Comper is our Director of Operations, effectively the company's MD/CEO if you will and manages all non-football operations of the football club. Kenny Jackett is the Director of Football, and is responsible for all football operations of the club ie First Team, B-Team, Academy, Recruitment (to a lesser extent) & Football strategy for the club. All football staff effectively should report into KJ as the lead, including our new Head Coach Stephen Clemence. Of course we have a Head of Recruitment which is Andy Hessenthaler and he manages the scouting network effectively and will recommend players for KJ to have the final say.

    Now this is where PDPS comes in. BG has confirmed that PDPS's effective involvement is related to contractual matters, be that for club, coaching or playing staff. When we are looking to sign players or negotiate new deals, this is PDPS' primary focus. He does of course have other skills which he offers to the club bearing his time at Priestfield and recently led the investigation and evidence production for our hearings with the FA over the recent charges that were made. I suspect he may have some dealings with the GFC School also. As for calling the shots, he no longer has that power and when BG & SHG are in the country, they are very much in charge and oversee the whole show and get involved where they need to. Most of the club's operations though are reliant on Joe Comper and then Kelly Derham who is the club's finance director.

    I hope that clarifies the situation and continues to anger @alwaysright for the fact PDPS still breathes.:afro:
     
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  5. alwaysright

    alwaysright @ Very Angry Camel

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    Thankyou Pegleg !
    Your post is factually correct (( although the exact % of Scally's stake is unclear. ))
    I admire the fact that your post is delivered without any prejudice or cynicism that doesn't tell the 'bigger story' regarding Scally's past and continued involvement....... that's why I am here !......oh, and for clarity - I am not angry that Mr. Scally still breathes - I just don't want his hot breath anywhere near Gillingham Football Club.
     
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    That last bit <laugh>
     
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    The Gills PegLeg Rock 'n' Roll Football

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    It is true, its not completely known, but the percentage you can take an educated guess at from what information is available to us on Companies House. CH has BG owning more than 50% but less than 75% of the the club and likewise shows PDPS as having more than 25% but less than 50%. Another article has previously stated Brad's ownership around the 75% mark so was based on an educated guess.
     
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    How pegleg has described the structure within the club is exactly along the same lines as my own thoughts, I'd doubt there is anyone that would dispute that structure other than someone with first hand knowledge, the people that work at the top of that tree as previously described.

    In regards to PS, I will not deny I was a tad disappointed to find he maintained some percentage of say in the club, however, in hindsight I understand why - that's business whether we like it or not.

    I also see the benefit he lends to BG&SHG (at a cost) and that is three decades of knowledge and contacts. In the real world, IF any of us had the money that all our current owners have, would we buy Gillingham FC or any other associated parts if it. Me personally, not a chance, why would I throw money down the drain.

    To get any financial rewards out of the club, takes a lot of time and effort, let alone any impact it would have on your health. I don't think any of truly understand what it takes to run a club. It's ok if you are an arab with billions, it's probably pocket money to them, but in the real world you need a miracle now to be the next Brighton FC.

    Then before you even get the club off the ground, you have to deal with racist and misogynistic behaviours. And an away end that resembles a set out of Auf Wiedersehen Pet, I'm afraid my answer for any investment from me would be...

    Nein Danke.

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    alwaysright @ Very Angry Camel

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    brb - loved Auf Wiedersehen Pet -- as much as Boys from the blackstuff (( do you remember the video with Yosser Hughes, that I posted a couple of weeks ago. ))

    Despite my cynicism (( and the 'slanted' facts that I post regarding Scally and cashcows )), I do understand that if Gallinsons can't fully focus on GFC, they need Scally's 'experience ...... (( ok - I do wish it wasn't him - for the fact that he all-but destroyed the Club. ))

    With regards to financial reward of investment (( not me )), in a Club like GFC, I have recently said that Gallinsons will need to pump in lots of cash if they might expect semi-dramatic rise up the football pyramid.... which I am not sure that Brad will sanction...... but without a major cash injection. I fear that the Club will continue to stumble along in the lower 2 divisions .....which is becoming increasingly insufficient for modern fans.
     
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    I see the only lifeline for clubs like ours is the new tv contracts starting next season, beyond that football is turning into a game beyond our means...

    https://www.skysports.com/football/...ve-year-efl-deal-over-1000-matches-per-season

    Running from season 2024/25 to 2028/29, the arrangement will be made up of guaranteed payments of £895m and £40m in marketing benefits. In total, 1,059 EFL matches are set to be broadcast exclusively across existing Sky Sports channels or live via a Sky Sports streaming destination available on TV and mobile devices.
     
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    alwaysright @ Very Angry Camel

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    My (cynical) approach to the 'new' tv money is that it may be a big help to pay ( modest) basic expenses -- but -- it won't fund big transfer deals...
    Personally, I appreciate the 'gesture' to help keep L1&2 clubs in existence --but it doesn't hide the obscene proportion going to the EPL..... and the more money it ( EPL) gets, the less chance of smaller clubs being able to dream to compete....
    .... and as that happens, more fans get increasingly dissatisfied with the sort of stuff that is served up at Priestfield ( and other lower league grounds)..... It's a vicious downward spiral.
     
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