Long time, no see everyone. I think this may be an absolute master stroke of an appointment from our generally hapless owners (in terms of managerial appointments). The more I read about Manning and the more I see the interviews, etc. the I am impressed. It's almost as if we have stumbled upon a more younger, modern version of Pearson. I must admit I was absolutely ****ing furious with the Pearson decision because I felt we were on the cusp of reaping some rewards on what has been a very long-term project (in footballing time at least). Manning's approach and philosophy regarding culture, processes, etc, is actually very Pearsonesque. I can absolutely see why he jumped at the chance of becoming HC. How many time does a new coach inherit a situation that is not an absolute mess? It's almost got vibes of how Swansea successfully dealt with managerial successions around 10 or so years ago under Jenkins' ownership during their PL years. Manning literally has the most solid foundation you could ask for. As a team, we do all the basics right (for a change), Manning merely needs to adapt this to turn us into a more possession based team which is easier than coming in, sorting out the basics and then implementing your vision. I am gutted Nige has gone but, for once in a very long time, I am truly optimistic about the next 12-18 months.
Hi Matt, welcome back it's good to hear from you, I was totally pissed off at the way Nige was treated but I agree with your thinking and feel confident about Mannings appointment.
I hope you’re right AR. I class myself as ‘agnostic’ towards the appointment for now. I was uncomfortable with Nige going but I wasn’t one of those people on here who thought he walked on water either. Let’s see what unfolds……
For me the proof will be in the doing as they say-harsh on Nige but i am willing and happy to back Tinmans man. Thing is if it goes petong who do we blame
please log in to view this image CRAIG Short says Liam Manning was ‘filled with a lot of indecision’ when choosing whether or not to stay at Oxford United. Liam Manning ‘filled with a lot of indecision’ upon Oxford United exit Ultimately the 38-year-old opted to leave the U’s, to take on the head coach role at Sky Bet Championship side Bristol City. It meant Short oversaw United’s 5-0 win against Chelsea Under-21s in the EFL Trophy last night. He said: “Liam told me what was happening so I was prepared to be taking control of this game and Saturday. “There are a lot of mixed feelings for people and it’s been a difficult time for the club of course.” Short, who confirmed that last night’s team had already been picked, added: “Transfers as a player happen really quickly, and in my coaching career, I’ve been sacked one day and gone into a job the next day. “An opportunity like that came up and are you going to say no to it? How many people would say no to it? It could be life-changing for you. “A lot of people here are very disappointed he’s gone, of course they are. I enjoyed working with him and he was good to me. “I know he was filled with a lot of indecision and it was a hard decision for him. He took a long time to make it. Hopefully it’s the right one for him and his family.”
You’re right about LJ being a WUM. Brexit however is far from a WUM. To me, so far it’s been one of the most foolish follies this country has ever done within my lifetime. I suppose there are similarities between LJ and Brexit insomuch as that they have both polarised our fan base and population respectively. The big difference however is that LJ was sacked when it was realised he couldn’t take us further and is long gone whereas I still wake up to Brexit every single f-ing morning.
Technically when you think about it. Nige was the most “Yes” man we’ve had. They said tighten the belt and buy from league one and he said “yes sir” and done it.
The Government could and should have made Brexit work a lot better by making their own rules and sticking 2 fingers up to Brussels I’m particularly thinking, illegal immigration, fishing and the northern Irish border Sovereignty ? Ha !!
Every manager has to work within budgets set by the club, that doesn’t make them a yes man. Deciding the budget wasn’t within his remit.
So you can say LM is a yes man, in a few days. Yet Nige wasn’t for doing everything that the directors asked of him.
It hasn’t been for any of our managers, or most likely any manager at any club. So I agree, it doesn’t make them a yes man, it’s just the conditions they have to work under.
Every manager has to do what their directors tell them, and work within the parameters set out for them by the club, or any organisation for that matter, that doesn’t make them a yes man. SL always has difficulty working with managers that question him, I don’t know LM, but if he stands up to the hierarchy he will end up clashing with them and will face a similar fate to Nige & Cotts.
I think if you are employed by someone else then to a certain extent you HAVE to be a ‘yes’ man if you want to stay employed. There are ways to challenge your boss, but direct defiance or confrontation is not likely to succeed longer term even if it produces positive results in the short term. Ultimately the man paying the wages will have the final say - and nobody, boss or worker, appreciates their nose being rubbed in the dirt. If you are confident enough in your ability and you have enough money to be able to afford to be out of work then fine, otherwise you play the same game as every other employee. Younger employees, in the dawn of their careers, are less likely to stand up and challenge. That’s simple logic.
That’s what I think as well. I hate this calling managers “Yes” men, as like you say they all bow to the ones above them. It’s the same as we all do in work. And when the grandchildren ask for things in this household anyway.
Agreed, depending on your role some push back, or at least challenging decisions is expected and encouraged in a healthy environment, obviously the further down the food chain that’s less welcome it becomes.
