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WAR! What is it good for?

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  1. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ... Forum Moderator

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    Christian Lindmeier, spokesperson for the WHO, has said there have now been over 100 separate strikes on health facilities in Gaza and that surgeons are now having to perform amputations without anaesthesia...
     
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  2. Sucky

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    Sounds like iran needs some good old american liberation.
     
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  3. FosseFilberto

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    .. but they did go after Karadic ...
     
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  4. FosseFilberto

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    <doh> you can't remove Hamas ... it's not a finite body ... it's an iteration of Palestinian resistance - admittedly largely populated by extremists ... but also has a 'political' element ... you can't eradicate an ideology - particularly when your every action serves as a future recruitment campaign for it, or whatever iteration of it comes next ...
     
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  5. FosseFilberto

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    Duplicate...
     
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  6. Citizen Kane.

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    Time will tell.
     
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    That wasn't really my point though, my point was of all the examples I gave, what jot of difference did it make, nowt, it don't bring the dead back. Take Netanyahu as an example, I've been one of the most pro Israeli backers on this thread, yet I couldn't give a shhite if someone put a bullet in his head, so I don't see it as any form of justice. Killing someone is not justice it's merely a removal of the problem, so if you wait until the courts, it's already too late, the harm caused is irreversible. If you want justice it has to be served now (which I'm assuming is what you want), not decades later in some air conditioned court room, pointess by then. He's 74, Putin is 71, Blair 70, all old none of them are going to be on this planet much longer, in the sense of fully functional anyway. Karadic is 78, no justice is served at that age, they've already had their lives, in the same way you and me have had ours. Suckys are the future.
     
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  8. FosseFilberto

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    Some fair points there - which I will always acknowledge...
     
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    Already has - since 1948 ... and no sign of it ending - this will be Israel's second occupation of Gaza in 20 years... first one was a great success ... obviously...
     
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  10. Citizen Kane.

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    "Your"?

    I'm not Israeli so you can dispense with that, please.

    Oslo was the closest we got to peace in living memory. Which group did everything they humanly could to scupper the agreement and trigger an intifada? Hamas.

    As a great philosopher once said:

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  11. FosseFilberto

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    Whoever gave orders for the airstrikes on 100 WHO facilities needs to be held accountable - because it was obvious that the vast majority of casualties from those would be non-combatants, predominantly women and kids ... and a fundamental concept of modern warfare is that it is illegal to target civilians ...
     
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    My sincere apologies ... and have duly edited ..
     
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  13. Citizen Kane.

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    Brilliant post <applause>

    Would love to respond when I have time to do it justice.
     
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    Maybe if some of the so called martyrs in this world stopped hiding behind women and children and found a way of putting a bullet directly to Netanyahu's head, things might change, because every minute he is breathing your death toll is going to keep going up. Not that I'm supporting terrorism, it's just a reflection of how I see the problem could be resolved a lot quicker. Which was one credit eventually with the IRA, when they at least tried to get the person at the top. Most of todays so called martyrs are just cowards, which is why we have these problems.
     
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    What Hamas do with civilan shields is deplorable and deliberate ... but that can never justify 'collateral damage of over 7,500 women and children - some **** is saying 'go ahead' bomb the hospitals etc ...
     
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    I'm not really sure what that has to do with what you quoted. You was going on about war crimes and Netanyahu, as I said the easiest way to remove a problem is a bullet to their head, at least then you have a chance of preventing 'collateral damage' where a law court at a later date, really achieves nothing. So for me, if Hamas stopped hiding behind women and children, and actually did what true martyrs do, they use their life to take that of a leader who they are against, then part of the problem would be removed. Now they would have had chance of this I imagine before the 7th October, when security was virtually non existent for the residents of Israel on that fatal day, and security forces failed to even know about let alone foil an attack - but no, Hamas chose to hide and cower instead, when the real target should have been a bullseye straight to Netanyahu. I would have thought with any support from places such as Iran, it wouldn't have been a target beyond their ability.
     
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    It shouldn't be forgotten, no one has yet answered how the planning of the attack on the 7th Oct went un-nototiced, and what did Hamas hope to achieve from such an attack, because from where I'm sitting the taking of hostages was totally pointless. The whole surprise attack was pointless other than to commit an act of savagery.
     
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    Well, I'm guessing their will be a lot of donations to Palestine charities, and a lot of foreign aid, and that will all stick to Hamas hands.
     
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    England should of probably just stayed out of other countries if they didnt want blown up<whistle>
     
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  20. brb

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    Can someone translate please ^.
     
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