What he said was, "We will not rest until we have justice. Until all people, Israelis and Palestinians, between the river and the sea, can live in peaceful liberty." I really don't see what's so controversial about that. He was calling for peace. I know the 'river to the sea' bit is an emotive and threatening phrase as used by Hamas, and he probably should have avoided using it, but I believe it's also in the Likud party's founding charter, with a similar but opposing threat.
Next week, McDonald will tell Jews they should focus on work because work makes them free. # Arbeit macht frei
Not conclusive. When you admit women don't have todgers, and vomit spontaneously reading The Guardian, you'll have successfully transitioned.
Michael Crick ordered out of the studio by GBeebies producers after criticising the channel's right-wing bias in a discussion with Neil Oliver. Surely not?
I've heard him do it on three separate occasions now. This time, he got worked up over another guest and was rude and overbearing, and when he was asked to desist by Oliver, he launched into yet another diatribe against the channel that has constantly afforded him substantial amounts of air time. He can **** off back to Channel 4, although I doubt they'd want the irascible old codger.
Doubt they'll be calling him a cock sucking mother ****ing **** and pouring ice all over his head - what a pity
Hilarious - Hancock makes it all the way through the Celebrity SAS selection and they still fail him what a ****er
Some of those survival skills will be handy when he’s locked in a cell with Big Leroy for 23 hours a day.
Let's be honest, they were never going to pass him of all people. He did really well, although in real interrogation he would have been kicked to **** as a bare minimum, with his arrogant attitude. Gates was truly outstanding throughout.
'From the river to the sea': Why a Green MP caused controversy with six words Glenn McConnell05:00, Nov 07 2023 Green MP Chlöe Swarbrick at a rally for Gaza in Auckland Play Video DAMIEN GRANT/X Green MP Chlöe Swarbrick on Saturday, joined community groups, activists and politicians at a rally for Gaza held in Auckland. Green MP Chlöe Swarbrick on Saturday, joined community groups, activists and politicians at a rally for Gaza held in Auckland. At the conclusion of her speech, she chanted the first six words to a well known pro-Palestine slogan, “From the river to the sea”. To which the crowd replied, “Palestine will be free.” These words are highly controversial. ADVERTISING In the UK, the centre-left Labour Party suspended its MP, Andy McDonald, recently after he said the words “between the river and the sea” at a pro-Palestine rally. The UK Labour Party called his comment “deeply offensive”. More from Stuff: * 'Holy Grail of shipwrecks' worth $20 billion in treasure to be raised from seabed * Family holiday ruined by 'common' passport rule * $10m 'benefit' from Auckland's reduced speed limit safety programme In October, Vienna police banned a pro-Palestinian protest, citing the fact the phrase “was mentioned in invitations and characterising it as a call to violence”. The BBC has also reported the Metropolitan Police ended its relationship with an adviser who was filmed using the chant. And the UK Football Association has said it will consult police if players use the phrase, the Guardian reported. ADVERTISEMENT Advertise with Stuff Much of the offence comes from the fact that Hamas, the group that controls Gaza and which launched a deadly attack (killing more than 1000 civilians and taking hundreds of hostages) in October, includes the phrase in its constitution. Its statement reads: “Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea.” please log in to view this image ROBERT KITCHIN/STUFF Protests in support of Palestine and Gaza have frequented Parliament, as the ongoing conflict between the two people continues. The slogan has been called anti-Semitic by groups including the New Zealand Jewish Council, which said the chant parrots “genocidal” intentions of Hamas. Some pro-Palestinian groups (and some Jewish activists) disagree. They say the slogan highlights that Palestinians were removed from their homeland and have not received equal rights in Israel. Swarbrick said she started the chant on Saturday after a Jewish activist did the same, as she believed it called for Palestinians’ human rights to be respected. ACT leader David Seymour criticised Swarbrick for repeating “inflammatory statements” at the protest. Where did the phrase come from? Similar phrasing has been used by a number of Palestinian groups for decades. The founding charter of Israel’s Likud party – which is now the largest party in Israel’s parliament – has used similar language to discuss Israeli sovereignty. “Between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty,” article one of the 1973 charter stated. In both cases, the description refers to the land between the Mediterranean Sea in the West and the Jordan River in the East. ADVERTISEMENT Advertise with Stuff For many years, the phrase has been a rallying call for Pro-Palestine activists who argue Israel has illegally detained and removed Palestinians from their homes. Criticism of the chant David Zwartz, a leader of the NZ Jewish Council, said the phrase was strongly anti-Semitic as it echoed Hamas’ charter – which called for an end to “the Zionist entity”. Zionism refers to the movement to establish a Jewish state, which became Israel in 1948. “The words did not come out of thin air, they were adopted and used by people who supported the Hamas viewpoint,” Zwartz said. “It is calling for the destruction of the state of Israel. That means they want to do away with Jews who live there. It is certainly a very destructive anti-Jewish attitude to have.” please log in to view this image SUPPLIED David Zwartz (left) is a member of the executive of the NZ Jewish Council. Zwartz said the Jewish Council has raised concerns with the Green Party in the past, over its MPs’ use of the “from the river to the sea” chant. “As parliamentarians, they are using this chant knowing it calls for the obliteration of the state of Israel. That does not deny the right of the Palestinians to self-determination,” he said. Given Zwartz said the chant became popular after Hamas published its charter, he said there was a direct link between the slogan and Hamas. (New Zealand treats Hamas’s military wing as a terrorist organisation, but not the movement as a whole, leaving it out of step with Australia, the UK, the US and Canada. Before leaving office, former PM Chris Hipkins signalled he was seeking advice on this matter.)
