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Ainsworth's gone.

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by cumbrianmackem, Oct 28, 2023.

  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I always thought he was a hypocrite who covered up his cynical football with false bonhomie ...

    ... after his player, Marcus Bean, had attempted to end Duncan Watmore's career he defended him totally and said he was just an honest committed player.

    I hope he never gets another job in football, it's better off without people like him.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...Sunderland-snatch-late-equaliser-Wycombe.html
     
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  2. FellTop

    FellTop Well-Known Member

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    Can I convince you <laugh>

    You might well be right. I do recall the incident with Watmore. I just think overall his Wycombe job was better tham should have been expected.
     
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    Not certain but I think he also dispensed with Beans services asp. I used to like him tbh but he does grate after a while, and he certainly needs a new mirror.
     
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  4. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I hate the man, he's definitely not what the game needs imo.

    I don't fall for his pathetic fake after match praise or shambolic 'style', he has no respect for the game and thinks he's bigger than it ...

    ... the Boris Johnson of football.

    His rock star 'waving to his fans' performance at Wembley summed him up ... and he failed miserably.

    One of the worst ever displays in a final and all because Wycombe couldn't play their normal cheating game.
     
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    No convincing you then mate <cheers>
     
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  6. FellTop

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    I think the incident with Watmore was rubbish on the side of the player. Not sure Ainsworth did much wrong afterwards. Standard manager speak not digging out a player. I would rather they called it out, but they dont. I seem to remember Kevin Ball claiming Smith was a good character after that tackle on Diaby. Be nice to think behind the scenes they say what they think to the player, but I am not convinced.
     
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  7. Bob the Mackem

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    Hope John Eustace gets the job
     
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  8. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Here's your answer ...

    ... never mind the players or supporters, I'm the big star here <laugh>

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  9. FellTop

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    I am going to have that enlarged and put above my headboard <laugh><laugh>
     
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  10. clockstander

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    Dan Smith was that, looked it up and it was an horrendous challenge, going back further these things were far from rare,, fortunately the game has moved on, and "The Wanderer" needs to do the same. He will probably end up back at Wycombe.
     
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    What a wally. <laugh>
     
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  12. Smug in Boots

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    Thuggery at Wycombe was systematic under Ainsworth who encouraged that, timewasting and all kinds of cheating.

    It was always the 'poor little Wycombe' routine from Ainsworth who tried it at QPR and the players just downed tools.

    They should be bottom half of mid-table, with the squad they have, but he's just not a good manager who can adapt.

    He claims he had 'great success' at Wycombe but that claim is as fake as he is.
     
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  13. C Montgomery Burns

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    There was also the following season down there and Darius Charles "our house" comment after they kicked and **** housed the crap out of us. Comments like that and their general behaviour that we've experienced playing them in recent years can only come from a managers direction.

    He may be a nice enough bloke as a person, but being a decent bloke and an arsehole of a football manager aren't mutually exclusive, and to me he is an arsehole football manager. It's not as though he's had to cut his cloth to suit his length because of what he's got to play with, his style hasn't changed at all. He's not tried to evolve or adapt and be "better", just the same all the time at Wycombe and trying the same at QPR. To be honest it's only worked at Wycombe, more out of luck because of the ludicrous PPG policy in the curtailed season, but was showing signs of no longer working in the last couple of seasons.
     
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    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

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    He was on the pitch waving his arms about at the end of yesterday's game, perhaps he got a whiff of his impending departure and was just waving goodbye.
     
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    I am going to invite him along to a not606 meetup as my guest <laugh><cheers>
     
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  16. Smug in Boots

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    He built up Colback, as a 'warrior', before the Sunderland match ...

    ... and the idiot went in for a pointless midfield leg breaker that could've ended a young lad's career.

    If that's Ainsworth being a 'colourful character' I think I'll take my football a little more bland.

    "When I walk around this place, I have got positivity oozing out of everyone. The players I've signed are absolute warriors."
    19th September 2023

    29th October 2023
    Sacked.
     
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  17. FellTop

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    Yep, we are better off without tackles like that. I am afraid I had very little sympathy for Dan Smith at the time. Just watched it again and I still have none. It was awful.

    All that said Wenger did take it too far afterwards with his threat to sue Dan Smith. It may have been what promoted Ball to keep backing him. Just re-read one of Balls comments and that was Smiths conscience was clear over it all. It isnt that often challenges end careers, but not sure Diaby played a whole lot after that.

    Wenger was the best at manager speak wasnt he. Never criticised his players because he didnt see it. Always up in arms about his own players being kicked. Mind you he produced some wonderful teams to watch, unlike my best mate Gareth.
     
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  18. FellTop

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    All very fair mate. I do think he was largely responsible for Wycombe becoming a top end league 1 side, from league 2. Maybe that is his level, but I still think it is an achievement on his behalf. Luck on the PPG stuff, but not so much on the climb from league 2. Just an opinion on his football achievement. 500 games at 1 club isnt to be sniffed at, but like I have said I am not a fan of his football.
     
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  19. rowley

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    Aye, there is something in that.

    Wycombe over achieved under him, no doubt about it. His appearance is not for many mind, but as you say, it's his business. He'll need another club of that size at the max to do that stuff again. Terrible to watch and I felt they sometimes put players welfare in unnecessary danger with some of their wild tackling.

    But I will give him credit for his demeanour after the play off final. I wasn't there, so it was telly for me. He was very fair after the match. None of the usual ifs and buts, just that the result was right and they were well beaten. You don't always hear that.
     
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  20. Essayyeffcee

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    He'll probably end up on Sky as one of their "pundits" on a Saturday watching matches
     
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