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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by Doc, Oct 27, 2023.

  1. Doc

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    Plenty of debate this week about Bielsa and FARKE, and a great example of the debate would be Spurs fans. Lets be frank here Spurs have spent a fortune on top end coaches ever since Pochetino was pushed out and they never did get back up to where Poch had taken Spurs. In the “Special One” they went backwards and even Conte did nothing for them. So Postacoglu has now broken records for new Prem coaches and amassed a big points total putting Spurs top of the league. Whats the difference between Conte and AP? AP hasn’t got one of his own players in yet and took over Conte’s squad except for Maddison but that deal was done before AP landed. I believe Van De Ven was an AP signing and that’s it. But look at how Spurs are playing now using a big press and continual running. Its almost Bielsaball but in fairness AP has studied Bielsa tactics for years. The main point here is that one of the so-called best coaches in the world broke Spurs, and a new guy has changed everything in a short space of time and improved a lot of players who were ridiculed last season.

    A couple of weeks ago Franny Lee passed away and I really couldn’t give a toss. After all this is the City player who when he went to Derby enjoyed a fist fight with Billy. However this week saw the passing of Bobby Charlton and even though he was a red he was actually our Bobby Charlton too, as he was part of our 66 legends. He was also one of Englands greatest goal scorers and the brother of Jackie. I last saw him at Jacks funeral and he looked emaciated and not with it, but he does deserve all the accolades he got. I believe only Geoff Hirst survives from the 66 squad which shows my age as a few years ago I attended a sportsman’s lunch in London with these players and think only Nobby Stiles had passed back then. I also remember knocking fook out of Nobbies mouthy brother John but that’s another story.

    Bill Kenwright passed away this week too and again someone who should be respected. He put his own money into trying to make Everton a success and he did it against their noisy neighbours. David Moyes was his man and between them they created a decent team and culture. However once Moyes left because he wanted more money to compete, a bunch of corrupt shysters got involved, Usmanov and Moshiri who have known each other for years but the web of money laundering is slowly coming home to trap them. They broke every FFFP rule and should be punished but I wonder if a lot of the blame will now be allocated to Bill Kenwright who sold a majority of the club to Usmanov the Russian Oligarch who has been sanctioned by our banks….

    There is a view around Thorp Arch that Bamford may be going out on loan in January. He thinks he deserves to go back into the starting line up but FARKE thinks not. Lower prem clubs are willing to gamble on him but would need to cover his wages. Striking options off the bench at Forest, Sheff Utd, Everton, Bournemouth and even Burnley? Maybe even in La Liga with his old mate Orta

    Angus Kinnear now has a new guy to keep watch over him and to take control of a lot of the club, including redevelopment of the stadium. Morrie Eisenberg Is now Chief Operating Officer and has flown in from the States along with his family. So this is a long term role and the guy as well as being a top director of San Francisco 49ers he was a top bloke at Tesla working with Elon Musk and before that made his money and reputation at Microsoft. Good to know the club is doing the right things behind the scenes.

    speaking of Microsoft get ready for a breaking story about Bill Gates, which will kill his reputation
     
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    We want to hear more about you nobbling Nobby's brother!!!

    His son was called John too, wasn't he. He had two spells with us!
     
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    If you are talking England squad and not just the players from the final, then I think Ian Callahan, Terry Paine and George Eastham, will be upset that you have buried them before they have passed.

    Also I think Bobby Moore, Gordon Banks, Big Jack and Alan Ball all passed away before Nobby Stiles.
     
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    John Stiles got himself a non- job as a consultant and he made up a lot of crap that he said would be great for sorting out your business. I was a senior director of a company and peer myself. I asked him where this bollox had worked and he refused to answer. I voted against employing him but ended up being overruled. I did however refuse to have him anywhere near my department and as 80% of the employees worked for me he was fooked. A month later he was laughed out of the business as a scammer. I met him a few weeks later at a do in London and he spoke to me and i just ended up knocking him out. Gobshyte but his little scam still getting him a few quid as only corporate wokesters will use him. Inclusivity diversity blue sky thinkers let’s imagine we are a helicopter and hover over the business to see where we can improve no wonder the countries fook off
     
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    Years ago Aski so can’t remember everything but know there were around 16 of them at the event so shows how long ago it was
     
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    Mark Aizlewood went to prison for scamming!!!
     
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    Only posted as Stiles was one of the more recent players to have passed away.
     
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    Interesting read. Hope you’re right on Bill Gates <ok>
     
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    Been all over X or Twitter today, rumoured Ghislaine Maxwell is going to name him as enjoying the Island with under age. Considering Jeffrey tried to blackmail Gates over an extra marital affair with some 20 something Russian you have to seriously doubt it’s genuine
     
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    Suicide watch for Maxwell as nobody wants to see another Epstein type hanging mmmm
     
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    The pressure that Bamford felt last weekend will start to bring back memories of last season if we fail against the dogz today. The pressure will start to Mount as we are supposed to be one of the favs for promotion. These things really matter so the players need to put their big boy pants on and deliver
     
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    To back up the rumours on Bamford going out on loan, stories are emerging about the pathway for Joseph and Gelhardt being blocked as long as Bamford still in th frame. This story is being picked up by a few outlets a lot of clickbait sites too.

    Although Joffy hasn’t covered himself in glory when he’s been given a chance, you can never question his commitment. Mateo Joseph Fernandez is I believe ready to jump ahead of Joffy and Bamford. He scores goals, has power and pace but also knows when to assist.

    FARKE has some serious decisions to make in a couple of months. We already know that at least 2 prem/European players will be coming in on loan but to play where? We need goals and obviously more than we’re getting now?
     
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    He admitted going to Epstein island 27+ times, just for dinner you understand. I believe him :emoticon-0130-devil
     
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    You're absolutely right about needing more goals Doc.

    Two 1-0 defeats and two 0-0 draws so far and because we couldn't score a goal in any of those games that's 6 points thrown away right there.

    The other isssue that you correctly identified the other day is playing too much of the game in our own half. Yes we need some sort of control of possession and consequently the game but currently the balance is not quite right especially at the start of matches.
     
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    As soon as the old lags get on the pitch the impetus goes and the pace in defence drops. Goal conceded yet again and Meslier at fault for lack of concentration. Sorry but Cooper and Ayling are done
     
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    Sell Meslier and Gnonto. Meslier is ****e and Gnonto obviously wants to leave.
     
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    According to YEP marks Summerville 9.5, Rutter 9 and James 9, Amaudu, Rodon, Struijk, Byram, Kamara all get 8s and Shaks gets a 7. Then we get Cooper 5, Ayling 5, Meslier 6, Gnonto 6, so the game changed when the old lads came on and we conceded due to the old lads, Cooper was outpaced and Struijk had to move to the other side to accomodate him, Shaks had to move too for Ayling. Bamford got a 7 but lets face it he wont score and we need to move on from yesterdays men now
     
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    Perkins yet again not even in the matchday squad. “He arrived late in the window and was much further behind fitness wise, so catching up now and he will play a part at some stage but he has to force my hand to drop someone” so yet again we see players going out of the club who are unfit…
     
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    Anyone watching the Tyson Fury fight tonight?
     
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