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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thursday 19th October)

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  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member
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    Good Morning. It's Thursday 19th October, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road

    Everton’s disciplinary hearing begins

    Everton’s disciplinary hearing into financial fair play misdemeanors begun in secret at Premier League headquarters yesterday.

    They were charged by the Premier League back in March, with breaching Financial Fair Play regulations, after posting losses of almost £372million, over the three year FFP cycle.

    Strict regulations state that top flight clubs must keep within the financial permeameters of the FA, and must not post losses of any more than £105m over three consecutive seasons. Everton have more than tripled that amount, but firmly lay the blame with Covid. The hearing is expected to last a week, with a decision likely to be made sometime next month.

    It seems that the likes of Manchester City and Chelsea have been getting away with similar rule breaking for years, without serious consequences. Perhaps clubs should be given a choice; points deductions or a massive fine dependant on the size of club. If Manchester City were fined £200m, at least that money could be put to good use!

    You'll recall in 2007, when Leeds were challenging Lord Mawhinney's decision to deduct them a further 15 points (having already been deducted 10); Chairmen from the other 71 league clubs (back then) voted on whether the additional punishment should stand. Unsurprisingly three quarters of the clubs backed the Football League Chairman, and Leeds went on to narrowly avoid promotion.

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    Leeds waiting to stick the knife in

    Two weeks ago, Burnley, Leeds and Leicester wrote a joint letter to 777 Partners (the group that are in the process of buying Everton football club) informing them of their intentions to sue Everton football club for £300m, if they are found guilty of FFP rule breaking.

    The trio are said to be unhappy Everton’s charges were not dealt with much sooner, as a points deduction may have changed the outcomes of recent relegation battles.

    During the Summer, Everton became fixated on Leeds Utd, trying underhand tactics to entice players away from Elland Road, inadvertently causing Wilfred Gnonto to go on temporary strike. Leeds fans will no doubt enjoy to see them squirm though their case is not as strong as the other two as they would have still have been relegated had Everton finished below them.


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    Have Leeds missed Gnonto

    Since arriving at Elland Road thirteen months ago Wilfred Gnonto has created quite a stir. The 19yo was originally bought in to save face, after Leeds missed out on Cody Gakpo and Bamba Dieng on transfer deadline day last year.

    Although the plucky Italian was always on Leeds' wanted list, the arrangement they had with Zurich was that he would arrive in January, but having missed out on other signings, persuaded the Swiss outfit to bring the deal forward.

    It proved a blessing in disguise, and within a fortnight of arriving, Gnonto was knocking on the door of the first team. Within a month, he was one of the first players on the team sheet. His form fell away in the second half of the season after returning from International duty with Italy with an ankle injury, and has been unable to replicate his previous form since.

    He broke his ankle at Hull a month ago tomorrow, which required minor surgery to correct, but has returned to training this week. Although they have lost Sinisterra and Harrison, Leeds still have plenty of options wide left.

    Jaidon Anthony and Dan James have provided plenty of problems for opposition clubs during Gnonto's absence posing the question whether Gnonto has been missed? Would a £30m offer in January be too good to turn down or do Leeds have one of the best young talents in the Country?

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  2. Jammy 07

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    Morning all.

    Not interested in Everton as we no longer play in the same League and we certainly won't be receiving any compensation.

    Gnonto is an interesting character and having seen him laughing and joking with friends & family down at ER he seems happy enough. Also he's got the largest head I think I've ever seen on a human being which is amplified by being short and stocky, plus when you stand next to him you can imagine him being a nightmare to play against with that low centre of gravity and strong build.

    Anyway good luck to the lad and let's hope he comes back better than ever.
     
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    Oh and of course we've missed Gnonto.

    It's all about having the best matchday squad which is why we've also been missing Spence, Shackleton and Firpo as well <ok>
     
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  4. Eireleeds1

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    Morning all. No interest in Everton as nothing will happen to them same as all other pl teams that flaunt the rules. They're not a different league just, they're on a different planet to the rest pf the leagues and it'll only get worse. Clowns paying 1.5bn for 25% share of a decaying club on and off the pitch says exactly where the supposed top flight is
     
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  5. ellandback

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    Spence will add a new dimension to the team when fit!!!
     
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  6. Jammy 07

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    Or he might prove to be a defensive liability and no where near as good as everyone is saying.

    Let's let the lad settle in and play his football before cranking up the expectation levels shall we.
     
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    Simon Jordan admits he was 'absolutely wrong' in live talkSPORT debate ahead of Everton FFP decision

    Simon Jordan admitted he was “absolutely wrong” in a live talkSPORT debate with Sam Matterface regarding the upcoming Financial Fair Play case involving Everton.

    The Toffees were referred to an independent commission in March for allegedly breaching FFP rules in the 2021-22 campaign, with the case set to be held before an independent panel on 25 October.

    The Times reported on 15 June that Everton are confident of beating the charges, which could carry a points deduction in the worst-case scenario, or a hefty financial penalty.

    When it was put to Jordan on talkSPORT that Everton could be deducted points, he said [18 October, 12:05]: “They won’t do it. They’ll fine them.”

    Host Matterface then implied that nobody has previously been fined for FFP breaches in the Premier League before, which Jordan strongly disagreed with.

    However, when it was proved that Matterface was correct, and that the examples Jordan put forward were covered by UEFA charges, the former Crystal Palace chairman said: “I was absolutely wrong.”


    If Everton supporters did not have enough to concern themselves with right now, with the club seemingly in a Premier League relegation battle once again and doubts over 777 Partners’ takeover, there is this upcoming hearing to look forward to.

    This all centres around the Toffees recording a cumulative loss of £430million over five years up to the end of 2021-22, which is in breach of the Premier League’s FFP rules [BBC Sport].

    Clubs relegated at Everton’s expense in the season before last, when a deficit of £44.7m was declared, are thought to be seeking financial damages from the Toffees.

    Everton have denied any wrongdoing and will fight their case, arguing that the COVID-19 pandemic was to blame for part of the losses.

    Let’s just hope they are successful, or else the punishment – whether a financial one or a points deduction – could seriously damage the club further.
     
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  8. wakeybreakyheart

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    Afternoon everyone i gather there is a presser today. Let's see who is still injured and had another set back. I honestly believe Dallas is done with us and we might see him get 20 mins or less nearer the end of the season. Firpo just needs to attempt a tackle and he is done in. Shakleton is another sicknote and i can't be arsed with him. But king Bamford who has taken the title from darren anderton is the dogs.
     
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    Anderton was known as Tampax when he was at Spurs - in for one week then out for four!
     
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    Now that bore fest of the international break is over any news of the squad for the weekend? Any returning from injury? No one injured on international duty?
     
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    Evening all, it feels a very long two weeks for some reason
     
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    Can’t help but feeling both Bournemouth and Adams getting what they deserve
     
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    Got to give him credit for passing that medical <laugh>
     
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    Don't think we'll get the add ons.
     
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    No and I hope we don’t get the medical bills
     
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    Unless it was making three games <ok>
     
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    And we thought our lot were useless at performing medicals. Bournemouth bring it to a whole new level
     
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  19. Doc

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    Bournemouth couldn’t wait to get their hands on Adams and exactly why they paid £24m when his relegation clause said £20m and all because he was supposed to be worth around £40m before he got injured so they thought they had a bargain.

    Gnonto fit, Firpo now in full training <laugh> Shackelton fit
     
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  20. esteponawhite

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    Off topic,
    It rained here today.
     
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