And you think they’re some lizard society intent on ruining football and all taking bungs… difference of opinion. Just glad that when I make a mistake at work I don’t have millions of people criticising me and making threats against me online.
One guy got 7 month ban for betting on himself and reported himself to authorities. Tonali also bet on his own games but didn’t come forward so def going to get longer ban. Already see agent come out saying he has an addiction. Silly footballers given silly money at such a young age and have no idea what to do with it.
Had no other choice than to do that. However, he could have bet on thousands of games to feed that addiction, he didn't have to bet on a game he was involved in.
It doesn't need a lizard society it just needs more retired referees coming out like Halsey did to say he was asked to look the other way on several occasions. Mike Dean saying he didn't want to make things any worse for his 'good friend' on the pitch by telling him, in his capacity as VAR for the game, that he'd made a mistake so let a wrong decision stand, knowingly. We have differences of opinion, like you rightly say, but we shouldn't be making excuses for incompetence. We should be asking for change to make the officiating better and to raise standards. Referees aren't volunteers, they are in highly paid jobs and their output should be commensurate with the wage they are earning. It means more to us in particular because we have missed out twice on a title by one point. A season doesn't hinge on one game or one decision but we would have two more titles now if it wasn't for poor officiating. While all clubs can rightly claim they have lost points in a season based on referee's decisions, no other club can claim to have lost a title on them. That's a big reason why our fans are feeling hard done by on this one. Last season it wouldn't have mattered too much, position wise, this season remains to be seen.
Im not sure what poor decisions being referred to in terms of us having 2 more titles because of poor officiating? Bit even so, I’ve never said it’s fine if they continue to be ****. All I said was they made a mistake they were punished by having to miss games (same as a player when they’re **** or sent off) and should now be allowed to go about their day job like every other person in society. In fact they’ve been punished even more because they’re whole integrity has been questioned by millions on tv and online when they made a **** up by trying to quickly get the goal confirmed and move on. Because of that **** up though, they’ve already implemented changes to stop that from happening which is only a good thing. Not saying referees should never be punished for mistakes, but their punishment has been served and then some in my opinion and I’d hate to have had to deal with all the **** they got last few weeks.
Nunez helping Uruguay beat Brasil for the first time in 22 years ............scored the first,made the second
I don't like comments like this (no offence JB) because it makes it about LFC and we come across in a poor way imo. It should be purely about improving officiating. That's it. We shouldn't be looking for retrospective punishment either, what's happened as happened, we can't change the past. Put measures in place to improve the future for all football (including punishment policies for poor officiating if you wish)
"So Mr England, you're applying for this post of a refereeing official in the Premier League, watched by tens of thousands of fans at the ground and hundreds of millions of viewers worldwide both live and afterward. Your every decision will be scrutinised and analysed to the nth degree, but we do have an extremely generous salary in place for the successful candidate, plus the opportunity to earn bonus, untaxable extra revenue on top of your compensation package by officiating in Saudi Arabia the day before you're on duty here in the Premier League and in European competitions. Just one question we'd like to ask you though - why have you drawn in a box for no publicity on your application form and ticked it?".
I agree with all of this. My point about losing titles looks like coulda, woulda, shoulda but all I'm really saying is that there have been two seasons with very fine margins for error in terms of winning the league and in both seasons there were poor decisions that cost us. Had the title not been on the line, you suck it up and move on. Two poor decisions that spring to mind are Mané having a perfectly good goal ruled out for offside when he was well on which turned a win for us into a draw. The other being a handball and subsequent penalty decision not given. You can even go back to the Rodgers season we missed out on the title when Sterling's goal was given as offside when it was clearly on and we missed out on that title by those lost 2 points as well. As I said, very fine margins. When there is a lot on the line, you don't want to lose based on someone else's mistakes. If you don't put in the effort yourself, you have to roll with that but it makes it harder to swallow when it was down to someone not doing their job. All teams can point to exactly the same decisions but none of those others had titles in the balance. As you say, you can't change the past but when Klopp goes, we'll look back and say he should have won more with the fantastic team that he had.
Did he though? I thought he only bet on his team to win, and when he wasn't playing. Can't remember where I read it now though.
He's admitted to betting on Milan games, doesn't matter what the bet was or if he was playing, he still have inside knowledge. As I said, thousands of other games so why bet on Milan?
Sadly, that goes with the territory for anyone in a popular, high-profile occupation and the abuse is one of the more unsavoury aspects of the internet. I doubt any of us on here condone threats being made, that is totally out of order, but criticism is surely expected, and is part of the improvement process. I know we're unlikely to get to the bottom of this, but that use of the word "off" (something you yourself brought up at the time iirc) still leaves doubts as to what went on. It makes no sense in the context of the published explanation. Also, the fact that a number of outlets subsequently deleted that word from their "full transcript" does again leave room for suspicion of duplicity. I have no theories, it may well all have a fairly mundane explanation, but a lack of one leaves a vacuum to be filled by all manner of conspiracy hypotheses. It would be best all round if a full and honest explanation were given that left no room for conjecture. I have to say that I also disagree that this error is equatable to a life-threatening situation, but it's also an entirely different kettle of fish to a player missing a sitter, or a ref giving a foul incorrectly. There's a difference in kind here.
Yeah - if the usual "addiction" reason is trotted out, it doesn't explain why he has to bet on anything remotely connected to him, when you can make a bet on virtually anything. Like with most things, even if you aren't up to no good it's best not to leave yourself open to suspicion.
I'm sure when you say thousands of games you mean other sports because professional footballers aren't allowed to bet on any football at all.
