Well, before anything can happen, the structure needs to change. Being governed by themselves isn't exactly ideal
Italy really have gone downhill when you lose to a team containing Slabhead, Henderson and Philips. The pace in their defence is like when we had Henderson and Fabinho as CB’s
Yeah. Can see why they didn’t qualify for the WC 2 years ago. Scamacca, el shawawy, Keane are their forward options. I assume Chiesa is injured. But lot of their better players are over the hill now. Chiellini Bonucci Jorginho Insinge Veratti
Good win for England. 2 very good goals and a classic pen. Was comfortable enough in the end. Italy not the best team but we always cruise through qualifying. Maybe take it for granted a bit because we do it and rarely see us **** up like some other nations. I get him playing maguire, albeit the other 2 options playing regularly and better for clubs. The Phillips one just can’t get head around. It’s not even like he’s a great player. Offered absolutely nothing and made 3 yellow card tackles and somehow avoided being sent off. Other than passing it backwards to his Cb’s not sure what he did. Would love to see his pass map as I honestly don’t remember one forward pass, and that’s not even an exaggeration. Southgate has to find someone else to play there or take a risk and go with rice holding and Bellingham foden/Maddison ahead of him
Oh, come on. I heard an Arsenal fan on 5 Live, supported and geed up by that bumkpin Sutton, making the same fatuous analogy the weekend of the Spurs grand larceny. The argument was that Matip made a bigger mistake than England when he scored his own goal at Spurs: well yeah, had Matip turned around and celebrated in front of the fans because he didn't know which way he was kicking, then the comparison might have some validity. Let's get back to reality here - a 'professional' paid more than a ****ing brain surgeon for watching a screen for 90+ minutes doesn't even know which way the decision he was reviewing had been given. Think about that. Now think about why the PGMOL doesn't have protocols and procedures in place to check and balance the actions of the lowest common denominator - one of their thick, over-promoted referees' decisions. They should know they're as incompetent as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest given that their history (just in our case, let alone others') includes the beachball, Virgil and the ref forgetting the rules for Serious Foul Play, and Diaz being flattened at Brighton and Sanchez not sent off for SFP because Diaz still scored. Add to that the Brighton defender dragging Slobbo down as he went to put the ball in the net just 11 days ago and not getting sent off either (and no explanation). My daughter is a nurse - had she injected somebody with morphine rather than insulin she would not only be sacked, she could find herself in prison. There are firemen, air traffic controllers, doctors, railway signallers, lorry drivers... Christ, most 'professions' with a safety critical element attached to them would equally face instant dismissal and more for such levels of gross incompetence. He didn't make a wrong judgement call under pressure - all managers can be forgiven that - he made a correct call then failed to communicate it, then failed to correct it. And more, he works in an incompetent system that fails to address mistakes. So no, he shouldn't be made a scapegoat - each and every one of the PGMOL management team along with him should be fired. And in the case of Webb. probably face jail time as well.
Are you really comparing the loss of a football game to the loss of life There must be a meme for that somewhere, go fetch boy.
I'm unsure if I've commented on the spurs debacle. But I will say the furore afterwards has been ridiculous. This should have been a good line in the sand for var, how it needs to improve, proper training, oversight, restructuring if needed. Instead it's all been lost in ridiculous statements and what aboutism. No, its not the same as a heart surgeon ****ing up, nor is it the same as the ref giving a red card when you think it should be yellow. Pgmol havnt needed to cover anything up or deflect from their own incompetence, the fans, the club and the media have done it for them.
It’s a game of football and once the final whistle blew it had no impact on anything on anything. Var is still new and haven’t had this issue before. Mistake was made, changes were put in place to make sure doesn’t happen again. We all make mistakes in our jobs. A mistake is an opportunity to learn and improve, not to punish those that made said mistake. Start in proportionately punishing people for making mistake and all you do is force cover ups and more issues which lead to more mistakes.
Don't feed the ****. Surprised he's still on here after coming on the other night celebrating Robbo's injury, but hey ho.
Why do you think the image they immediately issued had no lines on it? Did you know what Bein did at halftime that Sky didn't (and still didn't until the PGMOL HAD to release a holding statement at the end of the game saying an error had been made)? And why do think the PGMOL released the audio tapes? Indeed, they vociferously refused to do so for 3 days. Your cozy image of the PGMOL as some benign outfit of Keystone Cops, honourably but vainly trying to get the job done against all odds, is exactly what they and their apologists, especially those in the media, would like to fall back on. But no matter how 'new' VAR is, how much more training and review is needed (I'm aware of Kolb's reflective learning cycle - I used to train staff in it), can we not take a step back here and address this singular point - how could anyone with even a modicum of training and experience (and surely England has at least this standard to be in a hugely well-paid post that thousands would give their left-bollock to do) not know which way the decision was that he was reviewing had gone? Seriously? Because nobody died, this level of gross incompetence is okay, so long as he learns from it? No, not sending Pickford off was a mistake. Not sending the Brighton player off was a mistake. Not sending Jota off against Spurs last season too. Not sending off Mane against Chelsea.... yeah, we've all got our whataboutery stories. But not knowing the decision he was reviewing on a screen that you're handsomely paid to watch? Wtf was he doing? The PGMOL has simply not explained it and the audio tapes (at least the version they have released) do not. What are they hiding? What was England doing when the original, on-field decision was made? Either he was doing something else and we haven't been told - or he really was watching that screen and didn't know which way the decision had gone. Either way, that's gross misconduct, and the fact that it's not being dealt with (and the PGMOL wanted originally to get away with a statement, a private apology, and business as usual as they did over the Virgil **** up) shows how deeply the PGMOL management and culture is embedded in cover-up and secrecy. Your naive belief in their inner decency is at odds with reality, I'm afraid - they're simply bent. Irredeemably bent, as the late, great Astro would say.
