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  1. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    I think that's been overplayed over here. Fatah and Hamas have worked together before. They split in the 90's because Arafat blanked them when he did the undercover Oslo accords. The situation has moved on, and Hamas would need to be included.

    Under Ehud Barak there was talk of ways of linking Gaza to the West Bank. There are options there. The bigger problem was the West Bank being split into 3 or 4 sections by Israeli settlements.
     
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    Yeah….. but in the real world like I’ve told you the cult that runs the show wouldn’t let that happen will they it’s not thy religion for peace love and freedom

    basically it’s like telling isis to take up flower arranging instead <laugh>
     
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  3. Treble

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    It's really not.
     
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    No Israeli politician will negotiate with Hamas in the forseeable future .
     
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    They won't wipe out Hamas either.
     
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    then you clearly don’t know who sabbatean frankists are ……maybe invest a few hour into them rather than watching mission impossible twenty part six

    plenty of Jewish scholars have covered it since it’s creation in 1666…….funny enough the same year they redesigned London for the cult <laugh>

    inside job <cheers>
     
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  7. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    Yh Trebs ye ****ing idiot
     
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    I've told you before I'd rather watch mission impossible twenty part six, and seven, it's far more believable.
     
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  9. Solid Air 2

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    agreed but that doesn't change the fact that no Israeli politician is going to talk to Hamas atm .
     
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  10. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    I expect Israeli settlements will be returning to Gaza soon tbh. End game for the Palestinian state
     
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    how would you know <laugh>
     
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  12. Treble

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    <laugh>

    I know, why didn't I think of that.

    I'd love to hear an actual solution from @aberdude rather than the revelling in chaos <whistle>
     
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    Only you know Aber, you're in an exclusive group who know the real truth.
     
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    lots of idiots about……it’s a teacher style too go text book init…….repeat the text and you will do fine <laugh>
     
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    Anarchy is the only way
     
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    Thank u for the praise but it’s Jewish scholars which gave me the information….so not gonna claim it myself…….

    i guess the Jewish scholars are lying just so I could speak about it init <laugh>
     
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    I did say it's highly unlikely Netanyahu will. But I wouldn't say no politician. It's a massive accomplishment to get Hamas to renounce violence and recognise the state of Israel and of course get their hostages back. I wouldn't be surprised if the U.S. weren't talking to Israelis about this.

    Israel has to factor in the alternative. They won't wipe out Hamas, they lose their hostages, they're bogged down in a war they don't want and will find themselves back to where they were not just with Gaza but with no long term Palestinian solution.
     
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    I wanna go back to a point @brb made a while ago, that Hamas targetting Israeli banks or financial infastructure would have worked better because that worked here in the UK when we had trouble with Ireland.

    The issue there is, unlike the UK/Ireland situation, Israeli's believe (especially right wing Israelis), that the lands that are currently labelled as Palestine are the ancestral lands of their people and there true home. They to them are fighting for their very right to exist in their homeland. Right or wrong, it's what they believe and argue.

    I think the reality is, that if the UK/British public genuinely believed that Ireland was their home, their god given land and that they were truly in the right - Ireland would be part of the UK today, occupation or not.

    It's a completely different set of circumstances, even though I understand the point and the desire to avoid bloodshed.

    In truth, despite their bluster and despite thinking killing Israeli families will help them, Hamas and Gaza is ****ed. Their actions, which I think are ****ing disgusting, likely only brought on the inevitable sooner.
     
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    I don't think you are taking the rage of their public into account in this scenario.

    Edit: i also don't think that the present Israeli administration has no real interest in a 2 state solution same Hamas
     
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