Honestly? NO I dont think that at all However I think this thread isnt best measure for what you are asserting/claiming whatever. This thread was about different people finding different things MORE offensive. The example I gave for example was thta being spat on would be harder to take than someone being racist to me. The killing of someone would NEVER be the intention but if the person instigated it and that was the result IMO the blame is upon them, doesnt mean there would be no remorse etc. The use of a weapon was clearly explained too, as I said if someone broke into my house and I had a baseball bat to hand then it gets used, not least because who knows what that person would have, again if the person died as a result they shouldnt be in my house trying to rob it As for being hypocritical/contradictory, if you cannot see the diffference between what the discussion was and our previous conversations concerning the military or police then its YOU has difficulty understanding with all due respect. Hence the claim that you cant let go/bear grudge etc The two things dont tie in at all IMO. I am talking about walking down the street minding my own business and someone feels its ok to violate my space or take it upon themselves to insult my family etc. In fact, at the risk of another blow up, the military in this conversation would be the aggressor not the victim.
That underlines exactly the point I made regarding your hypocrisy and your prejudices, (which incidentally was mentioned by several others prior to my commenting on this thread). We must all be wrong and you are right as usual.
tbh the only thing crystal clear is that I have got under your skin as usual youre just making things up its not clever and in all honesty makes you appear a sad old man
Would you care to expand upon "the military in this conversation would be the aggressor not the victim."? Is that in all situations? Is the military always the aggressor? If a soldier is being fired on (or his family being insulted) by a Taliban and he shoots the Taliban making him fall over, would it be accptable for the soldier to put a bullet in the Talib's head to keep him from reaching his AK47?
further proof that you have misunderstood the OP and are absolutely obsessed however let me indulge you who is in who's house? the soldier is being fired on because he is where? as i said if someone breaks into my house, then its any means necessary
No mention of a house here in any of these statements? Are you saying that Zidane had the right to stamp on a player's face because of an insult regarding his mother? If "insults" alone are enough to make you consider taking the life of another human being I think it is perhaps wise that you never pursued a career in the military or the Police. You have no self control and are obviously psychologically damaged. You continually bleat on about people "taking orders" and military men following them blindly, as I explained to you on numerous occasions, that is called "Discipline", something you do not have.
either you are being purposefully stupid or seeing red to the point you are seeing things where there are not any The house statement is ALSO there you just chose not to quote that one Furthermore the statements are based around what would happen if someon insulted you for no reason, ala the zidane situation The current wars are not based around insults etc and in the case of Iraq is illegal. so in that case the iraqi's are zidane if you will I would rather put my life on the line to protect myself or my loved ones than on the order of someone whos interests I am fighting for or protecting There is no discipline in being told what to do, those are just sheeple. I think your pursuing things that are not there to try and restart a different argument are making you look a bit silly
This is my point IG. Nothing to do with army/war/military If I was walking down the street and someone felt they coukld give me **** then I dont see why I am the aggresssor? or even why I should be self constrained ie not bite etc If the guy dies (and I wouldnt wish that) then its his own fault
As I explained earlier you cannot see your own hypocrisy nor your glaring contradictions, you have said you would be willing to risk killing a man for an insult? You must be some guy in real life.
here is afew quotes you missed/ignored If you get to the stage where violence cannot be avoided, then its any means necessary Let me ask you what would you do if say some pisshead came over and groped your mrs or spat on your little lad? But to me my role as husband father brother son etc has responsibilities If that leads to a jail term (I have no intention of going to jail by the way) so be it TBF the zidane example was to highlight how different things can have a different reaction, or can be more offensive I have a cricket/baseball bat and sword thing (more decorative than weapon) if someone broke in and that was at hand then yes
and as I said you make no sense at all, and are desperate to engage in something that is not there. here is how this started we were talking about how far would we go in a fight if someone 'started' on you JJS - TFWNN, would you use a weapon in a fight if the other guy didn't? TFWNN - depending on the situation really but generally yes any means = any means Dev - So why should the military just not adopt that attitude? as I said you either misunderstand the OP/conversation or are still seeing red from the past
Did you say if you were Zidane that you would have kicked Materazzi in the head while he was down? Yes or no.
