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Match Day Thread Brighton and Hove Actually v LFC

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by saintanton, Oct 5, 2023.

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Will the Seagulls nick our chips?

  1. Certainly not

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  2. Maybe

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  3. We'll f***in' pluck 'em

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  4. We'll ****ing smash'em

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  1. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    what we have to ask ourselves here is this, (now that enough time has passed.)

    was hoopers yellow a clear and obvious error?

    aka should var have intervened and asked him to look again?

    if the answer is yes then the next question is whether var have a right to pause a shot on the worst possible angle and exclude other angles.

    are they assisting or are they painting a picture to get what they want?

    then roll forward to a clear an obvious vsr error

    then roll forward to a ref who's had a half time to know he's mind after seeing the red and offside (if he is even competent he would want to see all at ht)

    and find said ref going out of his way to throw yellow after yellow at lfc players including a non foul trip over himself yellow thst jota got for being near a spurs player followed by a yellow on a lunge that other refs the following week refuse to give.

    we sit here having seeing kovacic let off far worse than both Jones and Jota.
     
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  2. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    for the record I'd have given that free that Brighton got. no issue for me as he's cut off by two players
     
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  3. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    As I said, it's one of those little niggly things that could go either way. Most weeks it wouldn't be given. No big complaint from me as it was hardly a game changer (other than it affecting the end result).
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I'd say the ref was quite consistent in giving frees for anyone flopping over.

    he jumped into a closing gap and flopped over so got a free all his mates got.

    we are not urgent enough.to attack those situations earlier.
     
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  5. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    I wonder when the referees are going to get together and decide they're not going to be conned anymore by the floppers. They must surely watch games back and take lessons from them ......
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    you'd wonder but it's self preservation.

    the more meaningless frees given the less they run and less chance if a bad foul too.

    they quite like a broken up game themselves
     
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    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    Yeh, I was thinking when I wrote my earlier comment I could have stopped at they're not fit ....
     
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  8. Zanjinho

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    The ball was still moving when you took the corner for your goal against Luton. Minor thing but VAR are supposed to check (should have ruled it out imo)
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Luton let them off massively. ten men amd didn't equalise by missing a massive sitter.

    that's 2 points right there.

    they picked up at least, AT LEAST, two points due to ref and var against us.
     
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    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    In fairness we should have been 4 up in first 20 mins tbh
     
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    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    Gotta be honest but I hadn't noticed that.
     
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    I believe that its against the PGMOL's own rules to present the ref with a still image like that, with no context. They ****ed up with that and pretty much gave the ref no choice, it was as good as saying in his ear "you have to give a red card here".
     
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  15. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Isn’t that pretty much what happens anyway? Prob about 99% of the time they go to the screen they change their mind. If we want to speed things up, rather than the ref standing still in middle of pitch for 3 minutes while var check and then send him to the screen.

    They should either not bother with the second part and just get var to say to ref you’re wrong overturn your decision (like cricket).

    Or get the ref to run up to the screen to check it at the same time as var and they can talk it through together.

    Currently all that happens is var review it, then send ref to look at it to change his mind anyway.
     
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  16. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    no they have to review and recommend


    they are assistants


    video assistant referee.

    not a over ruling force.

    it was very clear Darren England was bribed and went out of his way to deny us a goal.and get a player sent off :bandit:
     
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  17. Zanjinho

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    I think they need to scrap the ref going to the screen completely. VAR is only intervene if there's been a clear and obvious error so by being called to the monitor he's being told he's ****ed up and needs to change his decision. Just make the decision for him.
     
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  18. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    I hear you.

    And I hear you again.

    might need Mito to translate though
     
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  19. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    you've passed you mitoese gcse by now. don't pretend you couldn't understand every word.
     
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  20. saintanton

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    We're all working on our Master's by now.
     
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  21. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    I wonder if there is a direct communication between the linesmen and the VAR?. If there's none, it is time there is one. Howard Webb has suggested there is none in his recent statements,
     
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