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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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  1. Toby

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    They don't have the funds. Qatar is holding the money. Funds can only be spent abroad on humanitarian aid. Col made it sound like Biden gave $6bn to the Iranians, that's just what the MAGA crowd are making up.

    I doubt Iran spends much on humanitarian aid for Iranians, it won't make a difference.
     
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    It's a fact. Iran didn't get $6bn to spend on weapons.
     
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    The Hamas leadership live in the Four Seasons hotel here in Doha. Well removed from any harm. Yes Qatar holds the money but is channelling significant funds openly to the Palestinian Cause

    Then again the Taliban have an embassy here so anything goes in this neck of the woods
     
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    "Humanitarian Aid" is defined as food, medicine, medical devices, and agricultural products.

    Of course Iran spends money on those now. So the $6bn will go to those, and leave billions for Iran to spend on sponsoring terror. According to Nikki Haley, money is being moved around Iran already.
     
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    So your 'source' is a loopy Republican running against Biden?

    The whole $6bn isn't up for grabs in one lump sum.
     
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    All of Goldie's sources are loopy right wing figures. He watches GB News all day. :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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    In your own link

    The U.S. Treasury's undersecretary for terrorism and finance, Brian Nelson, said, "All of the money held in restricted accounts in Doha as part of the arrangement to secure the release of five Americans in September remains in Doha. Not a penny has been spent. These restricted funds cannot go to Iran — it can only be used for future humanitarian-related purposes. Any suggestion to the contrary is false and misleading."
     
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    Labour MP's queuing up to be interviewed on GB News. They can see the viewership graph ascending like the Matterhorn, leaving the dinosaurs of BBC behind.
     
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    I know.
    However, I don't trust Iran to do the right thing or, indeed, to do what they say they'll do.
    Assets were unfrozen in return for hostages.
    You don't have any idea what other deals have happened in the background.
     
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    What's your view on the attack on Israel at the weekend?
     
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    It's vile. Civilians should never be the target, in any circumstance. Hamas are evil. Israel are no angels either. The whole situation is a ****show, it'll never end.
     
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    All you've done is quote the idiots that paid the $6bn

    Reuters also says the money can be used to purchase food, medicine, medical devices, and agricultural products. It's incredibly easy for Iran to use the $6bn monies for that wide range of goods, and save the money for terrorism. And do you think in Iran, we are dealing with an honest, up front country? They're led by criminal FFS.
     
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    They didn't 'pay'. They unfroze funds that belonged to Iran in the first place, restricted how it could be used and kept it out of their reach.

    You're just parrotting the MAGA attack lines on Biden. Trump handing over nuclear secrets to whoever asked for them is far more idiotic.
     
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    GBNews is the voice of the people. The fact it's funded by scummy right wing sources and is a complete joke of a channel that doesn't even call itself a 'news channel' is irrelevant.
     
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    I doubt you've ever watched it, mate. Go back to your Socialist Worker
     
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    Why would I watch a bunch of racists, rapists and losers pretend to be a news show?

    I don't read the Socialist Worker FYI.
     
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    Who's the racist? Who's the rapist?
     
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    Fox is the racist.

    Wootton the rapist.

    Too many losers to list them all.
     
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    Fox is sacked.

    Wooton's a convicted rapist, is he?
     
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