You can call who you want a terrorist, I'm not disputing your argument. My only point was if men with guns go to a party and kill 260 unarmed people, who have probably never hurt anyone in their life, having nowt but the misfortune of being born where they are, then those men are terrorists. You can fill your boots with any other narrative you want to add, but in my eyes massacring 260 people in cold blood, is terrorism.
it’s a vicious circle……but I guess being annexed doesn’t help relationships especially when the Zionists goal is to rebuild king David’s temple on the same ground as al aqsa mosque https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...al-aqsa-mosque-complex-on-fifth-day-of-sukkot
Never once said it wasn't ... and it's right to condemn it as such... but these actions are a 'reaction' and until the cause of them is properly and even handedly addressed by the Powers in the world such things will continue... Israel is continuing with it's program of building 'settlements' for Jewish people in a foreign country whilst the West closes its eyes and ears ... but then condemns Vlad the Impaler for doing exactly the same in Ukraine ... as I said, it's the ****ing hypocrisy that makes my blood boil ...
Yeah, Gaza is going to get wiped off the face of the earth, I fear. Maybe that’s what Hamas wants, to watch the world burn. There’s definitely plenty of religious nuts in America who want that too - Armageddon, the end times. God help us all.
Hamas are terrorists, no doubt about that at all. And what the Israeli armed forces are about to unleash on Gaza; that’s terrorism too.
I agree, on the first sentence. On the second sentence, last bit regarding Vlad, I've always argued we should keep our noses out, I did that from day one. Saturdays events to me, would be like Ukraine walking into Crimea and killing 260 unarmed Russians at a party, that would be terrorism.
youll probably find lots of the settlers are end times Christians mostly from America but they also come from places like Britain and various countries around the globe
I've no argument with that. My only point was massacring 260 pople at a party, a lot of whom I assume were young people, was terrorism.
Rothschild loves this kinda game why do you think zionist Balfour agreed to the idea of such a state being formed…..lots of shadow people pulling these strings of both Israel and hamas playing out the never ending war sabbatean frankism
This region that being attacked let’s have a look at its background https://shs.hal.science/halshs-01518735/ qoute from abstract This article first retraces the development of the kibbutz utopia through its 100 years of history prior to examining another utopia that has arisen out of Zionism: The " development town. " Simultaneously a revolutionary movement and a network of rural communities, a town planning alternative distinct from both the city and village, and an avant-garde of Zionist nation-building, the kibbutz later appeared to be part of the affluent elites of Israeli society. So, the kibbutz is light-years away from the underprivileged social strata of the " development towns " , even while in geographic proximity to them. The kibbutz utopia, caught in a stranglehold between social and national ideology, between egalitarianism and productivism, has come up against the political contingencies and contradictory evolutions of Israeli society. Plunged into an unprecedented crisis during the 1990s, the kibbutz has since been undergoing a process of complete, multiform mutations. Unlike the kibbutz, which was born of pioneers' desire, the " development town " is the product of coercive planning doomed almost inevitably to social failure. Founded in the 1950s, these cities without a true economic or social horizon, functioned like " warehouses " for immigrants, primarily of Middle Eastern origin. Israel's evolution since has widened the gap between the centre and the periphery even further, to the detriment of these localities.
EU have cut off aid to Palestinians... https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/...-self-defence-as-it-halts-aid-to-palestinians
The problem is, ppl can rock up at any point there's a major incident and say "they did this so the other side is going to do that". Anyone who follows events that don't make the headlines knows what happens daily, every month, and for the past 60 odd yrs. Only last week I posted about the indefinite imprisonment of ppl in Israeli jails without charge. Before that we had this. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-66620250 But bcos none of it is plastered across our screens few know or care. How far back shall we go? Anyone can take a snapshot in time and make an argument for who to what to who and why. This didn't start on Saturday so all of it is utterly pointless. The question is how the fck is it going to be stopped?? Because doing nothing is clearly not the answer, and should no longer be an option. And those who have the power but choose to allow it to continue (on all sides) are just as complicit in the death and destruction that's going on. We need honest brokers to crack heads together around the negotiating table, with the power and leverage they have. We need leaders on both sides (Israeli and Palestinians) who are at least open to finding a solution. And we need the will to drive it all through. But sadly all of these are lacking. That's the thing we should all despair about. Because we are SO far away from achieving those 3 things that I can't see any hope. And that was before Saturday.
Oh and btw a two state solution has not been the majority view in Israel or among Palestinians for about 10 yrs. Why? Because one side believes it has the power to have one state, and the other side thinks fck it we got no chance so might as well fight for it all. It's worth keeping up. The situation is fcked. And we've got here because everyone turns a blind eye.
There's a general rule of proportionality. I've copied and pasted this from elsewhere: For example, damming or diverting a river in order to enable movement of troops cannot be outlawed automatically because of potential harm to civilians. The criterion for prohibition must be harm to civilians disproportionate to the military advantage. Also this: The U.S. Department of State has taken the position that the provisions of Protocol I that “starvation of civilians is not to be used as a method of warfare” are among those provisions that “should be observed and in due course recognized as customary law, even if they have not already achieved that status.” The U.S. Naval Military Manual also recognizes this as a customary rule. While it would be advisable for States to mark such installations clearly to minimize the risk of damaging them, international humanitarian law does not require this.
Like you rocking up and saying you were supporting your Palestinian brothers after Hamas had massacred 260 people at a party (musical festival), you chose to ignore the fact of young unarmed innocent people being slaughtered. It's terrorism, and even the Hamas official is even in denial any civilians were killed. Who made you the authority on what can be said, or how people wish to think regarding the events, we aren't your school pupils here, so wind your fooking neck.
I expect people will be happy to denounce the US and UK, but the EU the very federal state that Putin hates, witholding aid from civilians that need it, is that what it is, is that what it means, is that the beloved EU is not going to fund Palestinians? I'm shocked I tell you.
