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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Uber_Hoop

    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

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    Most likely.
     
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    i see trumps still building his racist anti immigration wall

    Biden approves new section of border wall as Mexico crossings rise
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    By Kathryn Armstrong
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    US President Joe Biden's administration is to build a section of border wall in southern Texas in an effort to stop rising levels of immigration.

    Around 20 miles (32km) will be built in Starr County along its border with Mexico, where officials report high numbers of crossings.

    Building a border wall was a signature policy of Donald Trump as president and fiercely opposed by Democrats.

    In 2020, Mr Biden promised he would not build another foot of wall if elected.


    His administration passed a proclamation soon after taking office that said building a wall across the southern border "is not a serious policy solution".

    In a statement to Associated News on Wednesday night, the US Customs and Border Protection defended the latest move, saying it was using funds already allocated for a border barrier.


    "Congress appropriated fiscal year 2019 funds for the construction of border barrier in the Rio Grande Valley, and DHS is required to use those funds for their appropriated purpose," the statement said.

    The rising number of illegal border crossings has made the issue a vulnerable one for the president.

    More than 245,000 crossings have been made this year in the Rio Grande Valley area alone, government data shows, and September is expected to be a record month.

    Several US cities say they are feeling the strain of the influx.

    New York City Mayor Eric Adams predicted the cost of housing the more than 100,000 new arrivals since last year will rise to $12bn over the next three years.

    Mr Adams is travelling to Mexico, Colombia and Ecuador this week to discourage migrants from setting out. "We are at capacity," he said on Tuesday.


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    Watch: Joe Biden asked if border wall works

    President Biden's secretary of homeland security referred to an "acute and immediate need" to build the new section of wall and prevent unlawful entries.

    Dozens of federal laws have been waived in order to approve its construction, including the Clean Air Act and Safe Drinking Water Act.

    The move has angered environmentalists, who say the structures will cut through the habitats of endangered plants and animals.

    "It's disheartening to see President Biden stoop to this level, casting aside our nation's bedrock environmental laws to build ineffective wildlife-killing border walls," said Laiken Jordahl, a conservation advocate at the Center for Biological Diversity.

    According to a proposal by US Customs and Border Protection, the barriers will consist of large bollards embedded in a concrete base, as well as gates, cameras and CCTV equipment.

    Homeland Security said it would use funding secured during Donald Trump's presidency to build the new section.


    It is the first time the Biden administration has used its powers to approve the construction of new walls - something that was done often during Mr Trump's time in office, when around 50 miles of new wall was built and 400 miles of existing barriers were upgraded.

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    In an online post on Thursday, Mr Trump asked if the president would "apologize to me and America for taking so long to get moving".

    "So interesting to watch Crooked Joe Biden break every environmental law in the book to prove that I was right," he wrote. "I will await his apology."

    Mr Biden has been facing increasing criticism over his immigration policies in the wake of a recent surge of migrants crossing into the US.

    US Border Patrol apprehended 181,059 people along the southern border in August compared with 132,648 in July, according to the latest data.

    Mexico's president, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, said that 10,000 people arrived at the border every day last week alone.

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    Watch: Biden faces very difficult politics in Washington, says Chatham House's Leslie Vinjamuri
     
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  3. Goldhawk-Road

    Goldhawk-Road Well-Known Member

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    Yes, he's not at primary school

    Braverman is bound to be disgusting to someone who doesn't believe in nations or borders
     
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    She’s disgusting to people who aren’t rancid old gammon but wildly popular with rancid old gammon.
     
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  5. Goldhawk-Road

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    Can you not use your imagination and fit your signature "nonce" in there somewhere? :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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    Rancid old gammon have a high correlation with rancid old nonces so yeah probably. Both groups likely to vote Tory but that’s fine because you’re Reform again this week.
     
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    The Tories are positively liberal on illegal immigration compared with Reform. But that will change just as the whole of Europe is changing. Desperate in Italy. No help from Germany. East European countries refusing to take ANY migrants from across the Mediterranean. And Biden finally resuming building Trump's wall in the US.
     
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  8. Stroller

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    If only we were an island nation.

    *Asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants.
     
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    Genuine ones or anybody rocking up shouting “I want asylum! I want asylum!”

    In my case I want to be in an asylum.
     
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    Theres a way of establishing the genuine ones (apart from “are you Ukrainian“?). Process the applications.
     
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    Yes, I agree with that. If we could speedily process applications then would you have a problem with us immediately expelling those who’ve been declined and, if so, where would you expel them to?
     
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    rwandas nice this time of year
     
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    I was in the Ugandan Consulate off Trafalgar Square this morning (don’t ask) and the big black fella being dealt with first by the lady behind the glass was wanting a visa to fly to Uganda but then catch a coach to Rwanda. That seemed to be a problem and he was getting quite animated with her. She asked him if he was Rwandan. “No”, he said,”I’m Swedish… although I admit I don’t look it!”

    I did smirk with him.

    Ah, good…
     
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    Those who’ve been declined should be treated the same as now - they should have the same legal status as they had before they arrived.

    Or perhaps we could ask them if they would like to fill some of the 1,000,000 UK job vacancies.
     
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    Save the planet
    Buy new Zealand milk

    New Zealand’s Credentials
    New Zealand is the lowest carbon producer of protein in the world, with an unrivaled ability to inexpensively turn grass into protein. Key milk producing regions such as Europe and North America produce emissions that are much higher than those of New Zealand, with Asia 112% higher and plant-based ‘milks’ having carbon footprints 188% higher than New Zealand dairy
     
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    We're you after the latest Ugandan bride's catalogue
     
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    Not really an answer though.
     
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    The Left have half an answer but they're coy about it. They want all illegals to remain in the hope they vote Labour. They don't have a solution to coping with the lack of services - houses, schools, hospitals, doctors' surgeries etc without further damaging the environment in the UK, particularly England
     
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    What bullshit! Robert Jenrick told us the other day that families should have more children to care for our ageing population. Wait a minute Bobby, I thought we were full? What about the lack of services? What about the environment?
     
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    Jenrick's a prize idiot, and in a recent poll of ministerial approvals, he came bottom with a minus number. You cannot run migration and population policy based on a glorified Ponzi scheme. The environment won't take it. The UK is one of the most wildlife/nature depleted countries on Earth. This has huge implications for biodiversity and agriculture. A large number of species are facing extinction. There needs to be balance and whichever party wins the next election must find it.
     
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