Basically: Ref: "Is it the right call?" VAR: "Yep, definitely." Ref" "Okey doke: Assistant VAR: "Err, are you sure? He's onside." VAR: "Yep. So goal stands." Assistant VAR: "But he gave offside?" VAR: "FUUUUUUCK" Assistant VAR: "Call it back?" VAR: "Errrr......errrr.....it's too late. Isn't it?" Assistant VAR: "Probably." VAR: "FUUUUUUCK"
They appear to not have realised that "yeah it's correct", can be something of an ambiguous statement....ie it sounds to the people on the pitch that it's correct is that the offside was correct, but they mean it's correct that the goal stands. Surely they must have had some training to make things clear, ie just say ITS A GOAL or ITS DISALLOWED.
This! Just everything sounds so casual like they are chatting to their mates down the pub. I think there needs to be an more "official" way of confirming the decision like: VAR: We have a decision after review. REF: Ok! On field call is Offside, no goal. VAR: After review we recommend goal given, no offside. REF: Review of play is to change decision to goal, no offside? VAR: Confirmed, recommendation is; goal given, no offside! REF: Confirmed decision is; no offside goal given! VAR Confirmed - try not to **** anything else up mate. What would be really handy if everyone could hear the decision process like NFL, Cricket, Rugby etc. there is no way you get that so horrendously wrong if everyone is listening. Everyone would have been screaming as the decision was incorrectly given and the officials would have realised their mistake and changed it immediately.
Yes it's really not hard to have a series of commands that can't be confused or misheard. Ie VAR's final decision is "goal given" or "disallowed", and on the pitch they ask for confirmation of given or disallowed. The fact they just said "yeah that's right" to the ref shows what a farcical lack of rules and structure there is.
Yeah, I agree. I mean, err... right, after analysis, my decision is that it shows what a farcical lack of rules and structure there is in VAR. So just to clarify, my final decision is that VAR is currently ****e. Final decision. End of message.
It does seem somewhat strange that's they've released this audio tbh, they acknowledged a mistake was made and the people were removed from VAR and processes would improve. Showing people this has just made everyone who thought VAR was terrible in the first place realise that it's actually way worse than they thought it was.
This was the thing for me, you've summed it up really well and there are literally millions of people saying the same thing. In reality, it's a ****ing farce. It absolutely boggles the mind that something like this can be implemented without an even remotely organised structure. We heard the audio but what was less clear to me was what Darren England was actually visually doing at the time. Knocking one out? Reading The Sport? Having a nap? If you are paid a fair amount of money to stare at events objectively for just 90 minutes, how can you possibly **** this up? The issue now is what do Liverpool do? By rights they should be able to replay that match and I would guess that's what they're exploring. The red for Jota should be overturned. But then on top of that, how many other farcical decisions need to be checked? City's goal this season, Onana clearing out the Wolves player, our 0-0 with Palace last year, and so on? I honestly think if Liverpool get the right to replay it'll mean the end of VAR as we know it.
If you replay the match you will open a can of worms as every club will trawl through the footage and go down the same route There’s already a review system or appeal system for red cards
Why replay the match. Just look at it as a VAR malfunction so go with the onfield decision - which was offside. Maybe sack the VAR guy for gross incompetence. He clearly wasn’t paying much attention to the game.
They have been rioting on the streets of Jakarta as well. **** knows why they have so many supporters here.
