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Off Topic Russell Brand

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by rooch 3, Sep 16, 2023.

  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    See, that's where these discussions fall down, when people post opinions and guesswork as facts and the truth. As if you're revealing some previously unknown conspiracy to the gullible riff raff.

    I'd guess that you're no different to the 'good little cattle' you obviously look down on ...

    ... doing the same things, consuming and thinking about money.
     
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  2. alcoauth

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    It's literally true and verifiable, go and look at rich lists, find LLCs associated with them, look at lobbying, donors and NGOs associated with these people. If you can't join those dots you're likely complicit to some extent with their ideas, this will of course backfire.
     
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  3. The Legendary Tongue

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  4. Smug in Boots

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    You're saying it's a tiny minority and seem 100% sure of your facts ...

    ... so, how many people are you talking about.

    Join the dots and spell it out clearly.

    In fact, if you have all the information, as you claim to, why don't you just make it easy for us and name them.
     
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  5. alcoauth

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    You know why. The narrative is already written, the counter already prepared and seeded into people's minds for the best part of a century. Yet you already know this.
     
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  6. Smug in Boots

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    So, as I knew, you can't back up your 'facts' ...

    ... nothing personal, no one can ever give a straight answer to a straight question.

    It's always diversions, smokescreens and internet clichés.
     
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  7. alcoauth

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    You'll be dragged along kicking and screaming in the end.
     
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  8. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    "And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts
    And I looked, and behold a pale horse
    And his name that sat on him was death, and hell followed with him"


     
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  9. The Exile II

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    Second investigation underway.

    This one makes it a little more interesting - the complaint is from a woman who reported allegations repeatedly over four years and whom Brand had previously accused of harassment in 2017.

    There's going to be a lot of this isn't there. Serial shagger, obsessed fans, lots of grudges to hold....
     
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  10. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Might also just be a bit rapey.
     
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  11. The Exile II

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    Might be. Absolutely could be, given the way he behaved. Plenty of room for doubt in these situations though, unfortunately. His advances won't have been turned down for the vast majority of the time, so you'd have to prove it wasn't just a one nighter that went no further and the complainer wasn't happy about it.

    The timeline they're reporting is the allegations being made after he accused her of harassment.
     
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  12. Nordic

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    he’s a creep. Could be next up.
     
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  13. Snaggey

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    I agree, he is really creepy.
    Young lads would be my guess.
     
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  14. The Redbaron

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    Some say "Hiding in plain " ala Saville, sight helps in slipping under the radar
     
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    You found him a bit unsettling too, mate? Something behind his eyes. But then, I could just be being unkind.
     
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  16. Nordic

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    yeah, don't know what it is and perhaps I am being unkind. But something not quite right there for me, other than the fact he bats and bowls. Remember him being on a talk show a few years back and he was desperate for attention but cringingly unfunny - switched it off.
     
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  17. The Exile II

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    He's hiding behind the misconception that he's gay, not to put too fine a point on it.

    It's a hell of a shield against many things you wouldn't otherwise get away with these days - nobody wants to be seen as a homophobe.
     
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  18. Nig

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    My fictional facts are better backed up than your so called opinions

    My argument with you has ended as far as I'm concerned since you put people down with any debate you don't agree with without any fact based on your own opinions.
    My parting shot across your bows would be to look at the media and government sticking up for Israel.
    I bet you do too :emoticon-0148-yes:<laugh>
     
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  19. David Moyes' Stupid Face

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    I'm 99% sure very few people (if anyone) ever claimed the vaccine made you immune / unable to pass it on. That was a common misconception as I recall. It was generally advertised as simply lowering the chance, and lessening the symptoms.
     
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  20. The Exile II

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    If it wasn't outright stated ( I think it was), It was very, very heavily implied. Along the lines of get the jab, protect other people.

    They also lied about the vaccine's efficacy and continue to do so despite some people being on their fifth or sixth 'booster'. Suggesting we may have needed a second one in January 21 would have had you labelled a COVID denier....
     
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