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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Vincemac, Jan 17, 2018.

  1. Oliver's Army

    Oliver's Army Well-Known Member

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    Good shout. Give them 2 chances per match; captains call.
     
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  2. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    Well it could be better than this laser that they use
    When they can be bothered
     
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  3. Robref62

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    When VAR was introduced it was said it would stop all the controversy. It hasn't imo its spoiling the game. So glad to be out of it. Scrap it. Bollox to being a toenail offside.
     
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  4. cumbrianmackem

    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

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    How many times are fans going to debate this subject.
    Probably on a weekly basis as the authorities never seem to get it right.
    Spoiling the game doesn't even come close.
     
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  5. The Exile II

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    Automate offside decisions completely. No human input - that's where the problem always lies.
     
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  6. The Redbaron

    The Redbaron Well-Known Member

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    Everyone knows, the officials fecked up yet again because they are so p/poor and will continue to do so. Release the Audio Mr Webb, I dare you?
     
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  7. GaryClark

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    How do you automate were they interfering with play?
     
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  8. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    Get rid of VAR. Leave decision down to the ref and linesmen and we can then all accept that poor decisions are down to on the spot human error, like the good old days. Fans will be able to celebrate a goal with alot more confidence and not have to wait and see whether or not an attackers left testicle is in an offside position. Fans wont have to wait till the opposition kicks off before they can confidently celebrate a goal. We wont have to scrutinise the handball rule. We can accept that sometimes they are given, sometimes not. We didnt realise it at the time but we can accept mistakes by a ref or linesman. What we cant accept is glaring mistakes by people with the advantage of hindsight, slow motion replays and geometry. I have a bit of sympathy for the VAR bods mind. Id rather be a ref in the championship than a VAR official. Refs have the buffer of the grey area to fall back on. VAR officials not so much.
     
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  9. The Exile II

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    You could program an AI to apply whatever rules you wanted.
     
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  10. Daz

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    Been saying this for ages, it works in tennis and American Football etc. I still think it would be controversial however so I’d rather it was scrapped.
     
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  11. Dave_39

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    VAR needs scrapped it ruining football totally
     
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  12. GaryClark

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    And then we would all argue the AI got it wrong!
     
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  13. rowley

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    That's what's happening, and it was always coming. The refs and linos have been neutered now, often not making a decision as a bloke sitting somewhere else will make it for him.

    The charade of a ref trotting over to a bus shelter thing to peer at a very small telly, in daylight and then almost every time reversing a decision is just salt in the wound. He might as well just change his decision when his ear piece pings.

    The real problem is that the tech is nowhere near up to the job they have given it. A blurry line a foot thick showing a player half an inch offside is comical, especially as the issue is compounded by the same problem with the timing of the ball being played.

    And that is without them going back in time to show a bit of a shove, of a possible handball or whatever to disallow a goal.

    It all ruins the most important moment of any game. The wild spontaneity of your team scoring. It's a massive moment, the reason we go, the thing we always remember. And VAR has taken it away
     
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  14. master-simpson

    master-simpson Well-Known Member

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    It seems to operate a lot better in the World Cup, and Euros etc. Why?

    Corruption?

    Bart
     
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  15. The Exile II

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    It would only get it wrong if the parameters fed into it were wrong. **** in, **** out.

    If we lose VAR those of us outside the top six might as well pack in. No matter how well run a team is, they're not getting into that group of clubs that make Sky the most money.
     
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  16. rowley

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    Well, I'd say we aren't getting into it anyway.

    As for VAR, I'd say it favours those top clubs anyway, quite blatantly at times. Just this season, City and Utd have had utterly outrageous decisions go their way against "lesser" clubs. There have been plenty of other examples.
     
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  17. rowley

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    For offside, they have some sort of semi auto system. Not sure how it works, but the PL, despite being the richest league in the world, doesn't have it.
     
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  18. Ozzymac

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    All the players wear GPS trackers nowadays so that could be tapped into. If they're gonna do it then do it properly.

    Agree with what was posted earlier. If it's not automated and the ref misses it then it's up to the captain to challenge. Each side has 1 per half, if successful they retain their challenge. If not they lose it
     
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  19. rooch 3

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    That still doesn’t make sense or help really, they would of still lost that var appeal anyway so where do you go then?
     
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  20. rowley

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    Yep. They could learn from cricket , where the tech is considered vital, but not infallible.
     
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