He’ll turn round and deck you. Or wag his finger at you instead after saying he’ll deck you. One or the other.
If we won two of the four draws at home this season, we’d be 3rd. Not that it matters too much this early in the season (although Leicester look to be putting distance between themselves and everyone else). However, if we continue to keep drawing too many games at home that we should be winning, we’ll start to slip down the table. It’s not a new thing either. Rosenior made us very hard to beat last season after he arrived in November but we also had lots and lots of draws, especially at home. I remember thinking ‘we should’ve won those games’ about the draws against Huddersfield, Rotherham, Sunderland, Preston and Blackpool (and the loss against Reading) at the MKM last season. In the Blackpool and Sunderland games, we played against 10 men and only managed to scrape a draw after conceding first. That was 13 points dropped last season in those games alone. If we won those games, we’d have been in the play-offs. People thought my prediction of 14th was too negative but last season shows that the difference between 15th and 5th was those 13 aforementioned points we dropped at home. Our home form does need improving.
God these threads are hard work. Rosenior points out that all of our chances come from playing out, that we create plenty of them and it's just finishing them that's the issue, and people queue up to scream even louder that he needs to change it up, drop his system and so on. I don't get how people are so committed to blaming the same thing regardless of what actually happens in front of them. Football discourse is just so weird these days. It's almost like politics where you can never change someone's mind no matter how clear the evidence is.
We weren’t good enough to do any better. This season If we’d done better at home by now but typically poorer away ( for most teams ) we’d be in a similar place wouldn’t we ? The team has barely formed this year but expectations have risen beyond what most expected , the football quality is way up and the possession too we need a couple of easy wins at home I agree but we need Tufan back imo and Lokilo off the bench and maybe Sinik
If they don't believe that we created plenty of chances yesterday then they can't have paid much attention to the game at all.
I prefer a team that creates less chances, but scores from a high percentage of those chances, rather than scoring 0 or 1 from many chances.
I don't think (most) people are saying "drop the system". We 'just' need to be more positive, forward looking, braver, quicker when executing it. Even certain players and those above Rosenior have said pretty much exactly that. (Side note, I also wait to see evidence that Rosenior is capable of improving our attacking (final 3rd) play too.)
for the avoidance of doubt, there is a huge difference between playing out from the back and ****ing about at the back - unfortunately we haven't got the balance right yet
There’s always the big one in football, confidence. This is a team that is creating chances but is not that confident in front of the onion bag at the mo. If our forwards start bagging a couple of goals each then we will see that confidence build. Sure there are a few issues to solve but overall are we not happy with the position we are in. **** me we could still have the Allam family. Anything else is a bonus for me.
Why ask me?! And fwiw, I wasn't talking about confidence, although that might be one part of it I guess.
Apologies, I was making a more general point (bit like Howden did with me earlier). I do think it's worth keeping the booing in perspective though. Although its audible it is a small minority - I do wonder if club pushback against it, whilst understandable risks giving it more oxygen than it deserves.
Thing I don't really understand though is I've seen us cheer every pass when playing a possession phase in the past. If its an expected pattern to do that to draw and tire the opposition for the first half hour then why don't we as supporters just do that? A final note from me on the 'gerrit forwards' and boo boys- they seem to be the same ones that criticise the lack of atmosphere, whilst actively poisoning it at the same time.
The key to that stat though is the word 'accurate'. Picking your moment rather than just hoofing it, which is what some seem to want...
The booing I heard was definitely directed at our players and if I remember correctly was not long after their goal when we conceded possession after passing around badly near our own goal
I agree entirely. It's weird that anyone would think from my posts that I don't think the same. It would be stupid to say that there isn't something wrong with our attacking play. There clearly was yesterday. What I find daft is people blaming the wrong thing, and always the same wrong things, which clearly don't match up with what happened in the game. Doesn't matter whether you call it playing out, faffing at the back, being slow or being too cautious. None of them are true. None of them would explain why we can't finish or why the final ball is often poor, or why we can't turn any of these dozens of corners into a goal. Our problems are not in the buildup, and yet so many people are criticising our buildup play. It really seems like it's just an easy, trendy thing to keep going back to.
