He's telling you that the 'gerrit fowwad' , boo boy brigade are undermining confidence at home. And if it really is our best 9 championship game start in our history, then he has a ****ing point.
I think the local media have a part to play here too. RH keep encouraging people to talk about playing out from the back, and asking Rosenior about it. I know they have a show to fill and it's an easy way to get people talking, but I think it's a lazy, cheap way of doing that. There's nothing new to say on it.
Was unfortunate timing today. We had our worst spell of build up shortly after the goal and a seri mistake then a misplaced pass and its almost 2-0. I dread the day when a mistake leads to a goal because it will happen and it will be chaos
Today felt like a missed opportunity, which always adds to the frustrations of not winning. A promoted team, one that didn't exactly set the game alight today, coming away with a point against a team that's in the playoffs and has beaten the all conquering Leicester City should have meant three points, yeah? Nah. It's football, if you haven't figured out how football works, how it doesn't work like that, it might explain why some on here get so fussy over a 1-1 draw that sees us sit fifth after nine games. I enjoyed the game, not least because I've finally gotten well enough to attend again. We played well, we were composed and everybody seemed to know their role, which was brilliant. At no point did it ever look like we were going to lose and were it not for three brilliant saves, we'd have won that game no problem. I'll admit, there were legitimate frustrations I had, but I doubt they were the same as others. Still, three things stood out for me today. 1. Our game plan is pretty clear, we draw the opposition in and then use the pace of our attackers to get in behind. Exactly what we were doing, except we weren't doing it quick enough. I don't know why we don't keep a high tempo at home, we seem to do it away without much stress so it can't be too much to ask to see it happen at the MKM. Alfie Jones/Macca stood on the ball often, when they could have done a first time pass. Might not seem like much, but taking a touch gives the opposition time to move into position, and when every player does it, it adds up. Often today, we'd get possession, have acres of space, then ponder about what to do. By the time we got up the park, Plymouth had everybody back behind the ball. It shows the quality of players like Tufan who can pick those passes without fail or having to stop to look. We need more of that quality in January. 2. Who the heck was supposed to be playing left wing? Christie had Philogene in front of him all game, who was working and tracking back. Vinagre had nobody and did most of the work himself. I actually think he had a good game today, sub par crossing aside, but often he would pick up the ball, look forward and there would be no frigger in front of him! It looked like it was supposed to be Slater, then Connolly, then Slater again. Slater kept drifting inside, as you'd expect a CM to do, while Connolly was the only recognised forward on the pitch. Philogene had their full back on toast and the goal came from Jaden nicking the ball off him, yet most of our play came down the left, where we couldn't get our £5m man and arguably our best player on the day on the ball. I'm not a UEFA pro licence holder, but I would have either switched the wingers or told Allsop to get us focusing down that right hand side. He could even have put Furlong on at left back and pushed Vinagre forward, or put Coyle at RB with Christie on RW and stick Philogene on the left. 3. The subs today seemed baffling. 20 odd minutes to go, we're going for the win, he puts Lewie Coyle on. Now, call me old fashioned, but the bench is supposed to give the manager options. Today there were eight outfield footballers and a goalkeeper, so I would take it to mean that those players were all able to come on at some point (well, five of them anyway). A team is under no obligation to name 9 subs or even fill the bench at all. But if you are picking those players, they should be able to come on. It was quite obvious that Seri was blowing out his arse on 75 mins, during the last 10 mins and those flurry of corners he had his hands on his knees gasping. We still had two substitutions, so why didn't he bung Rocco on? Give a Hull lad, an academy graduate, captain of the U18s his home debut alongside his club captain and older brother and the crowd gets a bit of a lift, a young player who is hungry to prove himself gets on the pitch while the team gets a fresh pair of legs. A move like that, especially when we're in the ascendency, isn't going to cost us so take that risk for the win. Similarly, don't put Sinik on the bench if he isn't fit. If he can get onto the bench, bring him on, we only had one proper winger today in the starting line up, so why have him in the squad if he isn't going to play? I don't think players should be given debuts for the sake of it and like Rosie said, Rocco was in on merit, but then, play him if he's good enough because the message sent out there is that he isn't good enough to get on the pitch against an average-to-poor Championship club, so who will he play against if he's in and amongst the first team? It seems to have gone unnoticed, but we are in the middle of a bit of an injury crisis at the moment. It might be because Rosie has played it down so much, but we're now without: Tufan Lokilo Doc Allahyar Vaughan Sinik (who LR said was supposed to play yesterday for the u21s, which suggests he isn't fit at all and sort of highlights point 3). Those are all midfield/attacking options, which goes someway to explaining why we looked so offensively shaky today. I look at the players we loaned out, boy could we have done with Oscar or Longman to come on in those closing stages. If a striker isn't on the cards in January, I'd be looking at recalling Oscar and getting Celi into the building for numbers alone.
I notice a lot of teams are now doing it, I don't know whether Man City are trend setters in regards to tactics, but a lot of PL teams now do it and more and more Championship teams do it as well. I'm hoping that because we've been doing it longer, we'll be better at it. Bit like under Bruce when we played the 3-5-2, it didn't seem like many teams played it, but the more we did the more I saw others trying to do it when we flew up the table.
Well, haven't seen the game yet, internet here last night was awful, just buffering the whole game, so gave up. Just watched the highlights, we looked unlucky not to get the win, hopefully get to see the full game shortly. Disappointed to hear Liam mentioning booing, I can never understand anyone booing the team or an individual player, it can only have a negative effect, and why would any supporter what that, so what is the point? Get behind the team, as Liam says, as booing achieves nothing positive.
"Decked"....hahaha Anyone who uses the word "Decked" can't "Deck" anything. Calm down "Ard man" before you get yourself slapped about in front of your family/friends.
We've stopped taking risks at home - on the whole - but we still pass the ball about at the back for too long. It just takes up time when we could be trying to score.
Even when we have possession in the middle of the opponents half, too often we will pass backwards until we have possession in the middle of our own half.
Looking at this thread and hearing Liam, I think clear distinctions need to be made - otherwise the debate will never stop and we can never move forward as one (see what I did there?) So, playing out from the back is different to passing it around on the edge of our own box slowly. I don’t like the latter, like many others. That doesn’t mean I don’t like trying to play out from the back. If it can be done quickly (and doesn’t run down the clock when we are losing) then it works a treat. The other distinction is this ‘booing’. Booing is different to groaning. A groan is a natural sound, and when lots of people do it together, it may sound like booing. Passing it slowly on the edge of our own box and putting ourselves under unnecessary pressure, causes groaning. This sound surely cannot be what Liam and others are referring to as wrong. Because if so, they are blind to the problem. Booing is completely voluntary. I do not agree with it. The only time it would ever be necessary in my opinion, is if the players gave up. Glad that’s off my chest.
Farting around and passing backwards around our own penalty area nearly caused us to concede. The shot hit the inside of the far post and went back across the goal. More good luck than good judgement it didn't go in.
I don’t disagree with any of that, apart from the bit about tactics. Surely it can’t just be coincidence that those same things are happening every game at home and yet we’re able to take our chances away and see out wins? I don’t know what the answer is and it’s obvious that Rosie doesn’t at the moment but hopefully he’ll figure it out soon. It just seems odd to me that we should set up a certain way to play away from home where the opposition are going to take the game to you and then do the exact thing again at home when they’re going to let you have the ball and try and hit you on the counter. That’s exactly how we set up at the start of yesterday’s game and yes it did improve as the game went on and he tweaked things at half time before making changes. I realise we were more limited with injuries yesterday but there have been other home games where we’ve had more attacking options on the bench but still started with a more conservative approach.
winning a free kick in the opponents half and deciding to pass back till in ends up with our keeper is bollocks whatever Rosie thinks
We have Jason Lokilo who is a winger with pace who is on the bench maybe he should be given a chance.
