just watched a bit of CIN, and heard about a family who couldnt afford food or clothing for their daughter how in this country is that even possible? may sound heartless and if you are unemployed etc you may have to forego certain 'luxuries' but no food or clothes? i find it hard to believe that this can happen under the wefare state
It's a cold fact that unfortunately some people are less capable human beings than others - I don't mean this to sound supremist but there are some very dumb people out there. If you get the perfect storm of a less intelligent person mixed with being single, having a child and little education then you will find some of these desperate situations which are given as examples of inequality in Britain. There is inequality in Britain as there is inequality in humans from birth and upbringing - the question these days is how we help those who are actually capable to raise to where they should be. Modern day Britain is full of opportunity and anyone capable who is willing to work can find a job, it's just we all have standards of working in what we are willing to do - and some of us are not actually capable of many jobs and will continue as living examples of poverty.
not sure if youre serious but even with asylum its the so called 'agencies' that are set up to 'help' that are the real ****s Did you know that at one time as a landlord registered with an agency you could charge rent per person rather than family? hence the 'loads of them i one house' and did you know that a lot of shop owners/keepers take the vouchers off asylum seekers for cash? so give them a £10 for a £20 voucher
I agree with a lot of what you say mick and I personally have seen both ends of the spectrum But not abloe to provide clothes for my kid? or feed them? It wont be armani or caviar but charity shops, beans on toast whatever there is enough provision to do that without working hard etc
I also saw one with a £150 voucher in the supermarket getting a loaf of bread then getting change in cash.
you couldnt have as they are not allowed that: -The vouchers can only be used to buy food and drink in a limited number of supermarkets and shops, which often do not provide culturally suitable food such as halal meat, or can only be used in city centre branches. No change can be given, which means asylum seekers sometimes pay more than anybody else, or buy things they don't need to make up the amount. -They get a bed and either three meals a day and no financial support or £35 in vouchers each week to buy food and toiletries. MPs will be asked to confirm this return of vouchers and approve the extension of their use for other essentials such as nappies or clothes.
The basic state benefits are enough to ensure that nobody in this country should go hungry. If somebody hasn't the intelligence to know what / how to make claims for financial assistance, you might come across cases of genuine poverty. if I were cynical, I might suggest that any money these people have is not being prioritised correctly.
I don't need them, i work hard for my money, but you are wrong, they do give cash if they don't spend the whole amount, its a scam the government should stop
This is the problem with the welfare state of this country, although poverty is obviously shared by many other countries for differing reasons. The welfare state helps many people, some who are more than capable of helping themselves but cannot be asked. Genuine poverty exists dependent on what fate you have been dealt in life, some which may of been of your own making. I don't believe the welfare state is structured to assist those people and many would argue why should it. However, we as a country do not challenge those that take from us probably every day of their lazy life, those same people who do not suffer such poverty and their only understanding of the word is if the SKY tv goes on the blink, paid for by the tax payer.
you are wrong and definately about a £150 voucher The benefits (last I checked) were inthe region of £35.39 on a card available to spend in a limited number of shops
I agree people take the piss with benefits etc but the example of a girl who needed help from CIN for clothes?
TFWNN I cannot answer your question, because I have not seen or read the example you mention. Basically my originally response is based around we should have a structure system to assist (not necessarily with money) people in genuine poverty (maybe your example falls in to this category?). Which should be changed from the current system where people are just taking the piss.
I'm not i was stood behind them, i couldn't believe it, i also know a woman who works at morrisons and she says this is rife, and don't get me wrong, if i could get away with it i would do exactly the same, what winds me up is the one time i was made redundant i couldn't get **** all, yet jump off the back of a lorry and you're fine, thanks to the taxpayer.
