It was painful trying to keep to 20 mph on stretches of road in Cardiff. A van tailgated me for about 2 miles; it’s going to cause traffic grief
A fishing mate lives just on the English side of the border near Chester. He's already fed up of people driving at 20 in 30 zones as they can't remember which side of the border they are on so are playing it safe. You'd have thought they could read signs though.
That's assuming they have signs and they are correct. Certainly not always the case around here. Drove this morning and passed a 20mph post sign, while the road by its side still has a 30mph sign embossed on the road. Wtf!!! Same journey, one way into the area still has a 30 sign. Coming back, same stretch has a 20 sign at the other end of the road. Confused? You will be!!! No wonder the police say they can't enforce it. Prickford and his ar$ehple cronies say we must judge the speed by regularly spaced lampposts if there are no signs. I foresee a lot of legal challenges to any speeding tickets for exceeding 20. I would prefer signs encouraging us to disembowel Prickford and his muppet supporters. His pet monkey Lee (I voted for the wrong party - 3 times) Waters, next in line.
Not sure of the maths behind their justification either. When I heard them bleating on they were talking about a percentage of lives saved (I agree that every one is important) across Wales. The problem was, they were talking about all fatalities. Given the majority of them occur on roads that aren't 30mph, reducing the 30s to 20s won't save any of those. Also, a lot of fatalities on the 30mph roads were people speeding. A 20 isn't going to save those either, so their numbers are flawed. Hey ho, only a problem when I visit mam given I live in Ingerlund. A mate living just North of Pontypridd told me that most of the 20 signs around him have been pulled down.
If a car hits you at 30mph, you have a 75% chance of dying, if a car its you at 20mph, you have a 75%chance of living, if you STAY on the fugging pavement, you have 100% chance of living!!!!! simple maths.
They should have backed the policy up with average speed cameras in as many places as possible. There are going to be tailgating w@nkers everywhere.
I like your logic Robbie. Welsh Government attitude is to make the motorist responsible for everything including illegal immigration, bank robberies and shoplifting. You couldnt make it up. Never mind educating pedestrians and, dare I say it, cyclists, and reminding them of their responsibilities. "Oh, I stepped into the road without looking, got knocked down by a car and hospitalised for 3 months". "But, hey ho, it's the driver's fault that I couldn't be ar$ed to look". Total f'in' nanny state. Prickford would like to ban motorists completely and turn us into Pol Pot's Cambodian Year Zero of the 1870's. The fact that Prickford doesn't drive is irrelevant.
What a bunch of tossers you are! Get used to it....Germany is littered with 30 kph (20 mph) areas. Your average journey will increase by about 20 seconds! What were you going to do in that time....shag the missus (twice)?
Average journey time also depends on the length of the journey. Part of the problem here is the lack of consistency - as well as accurate signage. Within the space of half a mile I went from 40 to 20 to 30, and back to 20 again. Absolutely appalling. More time spent looking at the speedo than the road. That along will cause more accidents. I guess the Germans are better organised. Or perhaps not......
surely if you drive at 20mph, the vehicle is more polluting than at 30 and over? is this a blanket 20mph or just city and villages?
you need to concentrate on getting prediction tables up on here, not slagging them off for doing 20mph!! (no offence, in England it's only near schools )
Outside schools, hospitals and maybe care homes (although they don't walk quickly or far). I don't have a problem in these but this dictat includes residential areas even when there are pavements and houses only on one side of the road and some retail streets, e.g. Whitchurch, Cardiff. There is no reason to it other than Prickford and his muppets want to wipe out the car. Plus see below. The estimated reduction in car accidents and deaths is just a smokescreen for them to increase their income and finance changes they want. They propose increasing the number of seats in the Welsh Assembly by 36 (probably to ensure Labour stays in power) and give votes to 16 year olds. It is estimated the new politicians will cost as much as £17.8m a year rising to £19.5m by 2030. The Assembly are skint. Read between the lines. Huge increase in speeding fines on the way plus higher personal taxes.
