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Meat Is Murder

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by GroveRanger, Nov 18, 2011.

  1. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    Almost all of the blood is drained from the carcass at the abattoir. What you get with a rare steak is a tiny amount of blood and proteins but mostly myoglobin which is released when you cut into the meat and break the capillairies.
     
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  2. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    Could well be. In fact it might have been QI where I got it from too. <ok>
     
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  3. Sweats

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    You're making me feel hungry.. cant beat a bit of myoglobin <ok>

    You a veggie then ST??
     
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  4. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    ...or it could be myoglobin.
     
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  5. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    I have been for a few years but I used to like meat. Rare steak, bacon, proper pork sausages etc. My favourite was venison, again cooked rare.
     
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  6. Sweats

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    If you liked eating it why give it up?? makes no sense to me.. can understand a few veggies where they actually dont like meat. When I was at college I knew a girl who became a veggie because she ate a piece of rotten meat and it had a maggot or something in it.. reasonably understandable never wishing to eat meat again after that..
     
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  7. The Raging Oxter

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    You see, away from not606 I'm a green-minded, environmentalist, save the whale, hug a tree, love everyone equally, hippy.

    I gave up meat for purely ethical reasons. The downside is I used to go to farmer's markets a lot and buy a lot of local produce such as locally-reared pork and beef and things like wild boar sausages but since I turned veggie I rarely go now.

    It's a moral dilemma!
     
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  8. Sweats

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    Thats what I dont get with veggies, its not going to change anything by a few people not eating meat. Animals will still get killed for food. I think people could perhaps do more to buy responsibly farmed meat which from the sound of it you did... The only aspect I dont agree with or like about eating meat is the way the animals are transported to their deaths.. but I wouldn't give up eating meat because of it.
     
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  9. The Raging Oxter

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    On the other hand, there are approx. 3.5m vegetarians and vegans in the UK. Imagine if they all ate meat too?

    That would mean having to breed more cows, pigs and sheep in a more intensive manner with larger farms, larger abattoirs and even more transportation of animals and a possible lowering of ethical standards in order to meet demand.

    On top of that there's an increase in antibiotics given to the animals, more energy required to slaughter, transport and cook* the meat and an increase in by-products which have no real use.

    And don't even get me started on all that extra methane!


    * I went to a lecture a few years back given by Aubrey Manning in which it had been calculated on average how many calories were used getting a steak from the cow to your plate, including taking the animal to the abattoir, driving the carcass to the butcher, driving to and from the butcher to buy the meat and cooking it. I can't remember exactly but it was something like 3m calories of energy used for one person to eat a steak containing 600 calories.

    Quite startling when you think about it.
     
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    or even rerr <ok>

    Just a slight sun tan for my stake.
     
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    I dare say there may well be a coherent arguement the other way round insofar as the production of vegetables, ploughing of the land, chemicals used on the ground they are grown in, pesticides, man hours of poles picking the veg, machines used for the production of the packaging and sorting of veg, transport to depots to again be transferred and transported to supermarkets, and people driving to buy them.. not to mention the additional methane produced by the vegetarians themselves.
     
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  12. alwaysright

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    You really should have cleaned you knob beforehand.
     
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  13. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    <laugh> we shouldnt laugh

    <peacepigeon>
     
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  14. Sweats

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    You know its right though, I bet most blokes who have worked in an abattoir have tried puching a few dead cows.. you can see it happening the daft get punching the carcass for it to then fall on him..
     
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    I had Kobe beef at the Bellagio in Vegas. Although they only serve it rare it tasted fantastic. Even better was the well cooked end of the topside they had, my taste buds died and went to atheist heaven after that bit of nose bag.

    I had a salad for lunch today and I'm now pining for something that used to go moo, oink, baa or cluck. I'd even eat a Kebab if I had to.
     
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  16. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    Who knew the steaks would be so high working in an abattoir?
     
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  17. VenomPD

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    Foot & Mouth ya ****.
     
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  18. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    I'm a confirmed meat eater. Salad is what my food eats. But I'm a benevolent carnivore, I try to eat all the major food groups in a week - beef, pork, chicken, fish, etc.
     
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  19. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    Come off it, my joke was worthy of the Pud himself <laugh>
     
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  20. The Raging Oxter

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    Anus cancer. It's only a matter of time...
     
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