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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

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    47.9%
  2. Get out

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  1. Steelmonkey

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    Yeah watching it now…..but other than the first girl, who alleges he raped her……it all seems to be girls who had sex with him by consent.
    I’m a big fan of his so almost certainly biased. My opinion is tainted
     
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    He's a talented guy, but deeply flawed. He was clearly grooming a 16 year old. That isn't illegal but not a good look in his industry
     
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    Ain’t a good look I agree but he never hid the person he was. There was a 14 year age difference…..I’m sure there are many celebs and rock stars who have had relationships with more of a difference
     
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    Yeah, in some ways, today's standards are being applied to him as of 20 years ago. His problem is all the accusations in aggregate...and more may come out of the woodwork now.
     
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    No doubt more will come out, the media don’t usually give all their scoop straight away.
    Now we are into an interview with Jimmy Saville where he was being his usual outrageous self…..then the Sachs thing.
    Scrapping the barrel a bit ?
     
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    Ant other phone would be too big for his tiny midget hands
     
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    IMG_5344.jpeg
     
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  11. Goldhawk-Road

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    Yes, Saville and Sachs is not new. Many fell foul of Saville.
     
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    It’s gonna be interesting to see what Brands next move will be
     
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    More denial but he won't sue for defamation. There's too much against him
     
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    So we have a situation where he can deny it….but not prove his innocence (if that’s what he is of course). Just seems like the media can ruin someone career and name on allegations that can’t be proven.
     
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    Well, the only thing stopping him launching a defamation action to clear his name is...the fact that he would almost certainly lose because most or all of the allegations are true and can be proved. That isn't a denial of justice.
     
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    But there doesn’t seem much that he’s done that can be proven, one way or the other.
     
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    Defamation is a civil action, so his accusers only have to show he probably is responsible
     
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    So he’s ****ed then…..Shagger of the year isnt the badge of honour it once was I guess
     
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    I still proudly wear that badge I earned from Club 1830 in 1988
     
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    Goldie's opinion isn't tainted. The Times!
     
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