Correct. Although it more applies to those still not believing they were conned. The NHS claim did for me - gullible fool I was back then.
Partnership is absolutely fine. It's forced political union that was always the issue. The EU's response to Brexit has been very telling imho. Rather than a period of reflection, it's been full steam ahead on 'More EU'.
Good on you marra. We need more people like you who voted leave to stand up and say it was based on lies. I voted remain and accepted the majority vote. I feel it would be undemocratic of me to bang a drum about returning.
Port Talbot Steel about to restructure £500m from UK government £725m from Tata... Seems Tata got a better deal than BMW Edit. Updated Tata funding
There'll be plenty banging the drum, demanding another election, if Labour get in and they don't like their policies ... ... democracy isn't always about shutting up as soon as a vote's been cast. We've had a string of PMs for that reason, the current one is there on a 'last man standing' basis ... ... he, and those before him, have totally different views than those the public voted for. if that's democracy then fair enough but don't expect me to suddenly agree that Brexit wasn't a disaster.
I watched the first episode of "Laura Kuenssberg: State of Chaos", on BBC I Player last night Smug. It’s worth a watch and a real eye opener for anyone interested in politics and what actually happens behind the scenes in Westminster.
The whole thing runs on 17th century practices and simply can't cope with the modern world. It doesn't help that we are constantly fed the narrative that only very few people should have any accountability. 'PM, can you answer in great detail this minor question and set policy on it right now?' 'well no, I've got about a thousand more important things going on right now' 'GOTCHA' And while I'm looking forward to the Labour faithful contorting themselves to breaking point to defend their side doing things that they'd be screaming about if it was the Tories, ultimately it's no way to be running anything, let alone a government.
You are right but it isn’t 17th century practices this programme highlights. It highlights how democracy was circumvented post 2016 and the double dealing and backstabbing within the Conservative party, I have no doubt it will be the same, or worse, in the Labour party if they ever form a government. I am convinced that what we see in parliament is a façade and bears no resemblance to what actually happens in cabinet and ministerial departments.
We need PR - only the U.K. and I think Belarus operate a first past the post system in Europe, discounting Russia for obvious reasons. Too many MPs are working for big business, corporations and tax avoiders while shafting the rest of the electorate, imo.
If you were to create a brand new system you wouldn't have the top man lying to Parliament and the public, handing out Lordships, dishing money out to friends for contracts or making millions on the side. This system was never perfect but Boris Johnson dragged it to depths Jacques Cousteau wouldn't dare go to ... ... there was never a glimmer of honesty or accountability. It may recover but its certainly damaged.
I agree - that charlatan should never have been allowed near public office never mind the high profile positions he has stained.
Another Sunak promise that won't happen ... "The American bully XL dog is to be banned, the prime minister has announced, following the death of a man in a suspected attack. Rishi Sunak said the dogs were "a danger to our communities" and would be banned by the end of the year."
And IF Labour moves to get us back into The EU, I foresee a massive Protest Movement from those who wanted to leave. (Unless of course, we could return to a Trading Bloc, as it was when we first joined, rather than the Political monstrosity it had become by the time we left).
Who knows mate. There are quite a few, from what I've seen, who are disappointed with the Brexit they voted for, the country doesn't seem to have improved much. On the other hand I haven't seen any remainers saying it was actually a wonderful thing in hindsight. One of the biggest beneficiaries was supposed to be the NHS which is falling to pieces ... ... time will tell, I suppose, but quite a few years have already passed.¹
People keep telling me we need to be patient. That is fine, and undoubtedly Sunak has done a great job of unlocking some messy stuff. He is inching us forward. Inching isnt enough though. The negative impact on our economy is clear as day. It wont improve. The evidence is clear, it has been a failure on all fronts. Only a party interested in doing good things for uk people will reverse it, sadly all parties are about votes only. Labour will see the worst of this decision in their term, it is what they will be ultimately judged on. They have my sympathy, but they have played their part in this outcome. Good luck to them and I cross my fingers.
"Rory Stewart has described Boris Johnson as an “egotistical chancer” who did not understand his own Brexit proposals." That's everyone in the same boat then
Trust me, people will look back on this as a national disaster. Pub closures rise sharply amid warning over planned business rate change Nearly 400 pubs closed their doors for good in England and Wales in first half of 2023, almost as many as the whole of 2022 Rob Davies @ByRobDavies Mon 18th Sep, 2023 07.01 BST The number of pubs in England and Wales that shut their doors for good rose sharply in the first half of 2023, prompting warnings to the government that planned rises in business rates could force further closures in the beleaguered sector. Figures show that 383 pubs, or more than two a day, “vanished” in the first six months of this year, almost matching the total for the whole of 2022, when 386 were lost.
