legal defence fund

You don't have to like it or pay for him to beat the charge

You don't need permission from the Irish Embassy to sing republican songs

Scots kids think braveheart is real and sing flower of Scotland...should they stop?

What about ex-pats...their kids and grandkids

You think Irish republicans get this kind of grief in the US? Australia? England?

Stop supporting Palestine...or Israel....you've never been...

 

Right well understand this.

1) He was remanded in custody because he did not either have a solicitor present ie he represented himself and then did not oppose being remanded or apply for bail conditions which is the right anyone has when they are in a scottish court.

2) They are starting a foundation to receive donations to help fight his cause, WHY the Scottish legal system has legal aid (in simpler terms he could've had his case paid or mostly paid for by requesting legal aid)

So why are people acting out as if its some tragedy he was remanded it was HIS fault and his fault alone for not contesting the prosecutors decision and why are people donating money to something that can be paid for him by the very same system that is charging him with the singing - THIS entire argument is a complete and utter shambles, its a joke in fact if i didn't know better I'd say this was a clever scheme to extort money from people but unfortunately i really do believe they are genuinely thick ****s.

Understand?

 

So much so that any even the Scottish celtic fans have yet to dispute what I'm saying.

There is nothing to understand you are just making complications out of non complicated situations - its fact.

I've told you how the Scottish legal system works yet you still think there is a cause so I'll leave it there as I'm now 100% positive its impossible to get anything across to you, Good bye

 

Read this a few times... boils down to whataboutery!

If you honestly believe chanting IRA is acceptable ... then on you go. Just don't complain when Celtic get fined, have to play behind closed doors or even have poinst deducted (if people continue stop listening to the rules).

I'm not talking about the SNP legislation... I'm talking about UEFA/SPL's rules.

I understand people like RB's point (as an Irish Republican) and fans like yourself who feel connected to Ireland and the Republican cause in some way !

 

We have gone off in a tangent

UEFA SPL and Celtic have every right to ban, fine or expel Celtic Fans/club if we break their rules

I accept this, I hope they don't but at the end of the day its their ball we are playing with

However arresting people for singing songs I am totally against

I even support the huns in this, I'm sure someone can confirm my opinion on the ugly sisters songs...I hate them but they have a right to sing them imo

 

I'd agree with you that the new "powers" being put in place are flawed (and a good lawyer should be able to getyou off), however, during uncertian times if you are stupid enough to continue chanting stuff that you know will get you into trouble at a football match- and we all know what the police are getting told to crack down on - then you bring it upon yourself (pure n simple).

If you really want to educate, further the cause or demonstrate then go on a rally, a march or to a meeting... don't be silly enough to give the police an oppurtunity to lift you at the football.

 

What about people singing racist songs, Is that ok because "it's only a song"?

 

Is "The Banana Boat Song" racist Dev?

Not a wind-up. Me and a couple of mates were genuinely discussing this a while back. I said it was seriously iffy in the very least.

 

what is your disability again?

 

I can honestly say i've not heard it being sung so I suppose it all depends on the context as usual. Some of the worst arseholes with the biggest problem are sleekit and will go to any lengths to wrap their prejudices in brown paper so that only people in the know (as it were) can see through it. Outsiders will give them the benefit of the doubt and argue that lesser known songs were not designed to cause offense.

 

Yes because apparently its political too, the BNP is a recognized political party - so going by RBs logic it should be surely?

 

That's an interesting point, I wonder if anyone on here would condone BNP/EDL songs at a football match, Millwall for one have a long history with the far right, does that mean they should be allowed free reign to sing whatever they feel like.............................at a football match?

 

Remember though Dev. These songs have "historical meaning"......whatever the **** that actually means.

I've stopped going to away games. I won't be attending another one until more Celtic fans start self-policing the ****s who are giving the club a bad name.

**** the IRA, **** the IRA

 

And its also educational teaches us what colored people really are

The Slave Trade is historical is it not? could you not link the two? or you could link it to WW2 and neo-nazis surely?

 

Sarky bastard.

 

Yes

It's up to the club to deem it inappropriate and take measures against it or the League to sanction the club

However republican songs are generally about events and republican heroes....not many are hate filled anti protestant tirades

Trying to link republican songs to racism....poor show

 

I'm linking Republican songs to Racism because they are both subjects which are offensive to people. I have simply used an analogy which is perfectly valid.

And what point were you trying to make when you say "Not many"?