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CEO extended interview tonight

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  1. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Of course he’s not getting the backing he needs, hence his answer to why none of the Scott money was allocated to bringing in more players, in which he replied he doesn’t know and suggested the question be put to “someone else”.
     
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  2. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker Staff Member

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    That someone else came from the top, some of the money had already been spent before we recieved any, it's cazy how could Nige know? forgive my language but in Lawrie Westie where I spent my early teenage years that was called a " Spunk Bubble"
    'Bristol City CEO Phil Alexander insists the Robins spent a portion of the Alex Scott transfer fee before the midfielder’s £25million sale was sanctioned to Bournemouth, as owner Steve Lansdown’s budget laid out at the start of the year demanded the club be more self-sufficient and less reliant on his own personal investment.'
    I don't want to be negative but our CEO is devious, a Lansdown Deciple.
     
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  3. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Indeed, he tried, unsuccessfully, to suggest the meeting in March laid all that out. He didn’t however explain how if that was the case the clubs line before the sale was that we don’t need to sale Scott. Or how both Tinnion and Pearson believed there to be a plan A, and a plan B scenario depending on whether he was sold. Then once he was sold that there was actually a plan C, which was simply to revert to plan A but suggest the players bought before the sale were actually factored in. The man’s full of BS.

    I wonder how Gould would have dealt with it. Bottom line SL has decided since the March meeting he no longer wants to carry on subsidising the club to the extent he has in the past. That’s his prerogative, but be honest, don’t try and hoodwink us, we are not idiots or fools.

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    They must also accept there are consequences to that decision, to try to suggest we have a big enough squad, and they still expect top 10, is not realistic, no matter how many time he kept saying we are ambitious for success, they plainly aren’t, or else they’d realise in order to have a chance of achieving it we need a decent sized squad, and that needs to be funded.

    I found the interview condescending, he tried to blind us with accountant talk. As I said earlier in the post he’s full of BS. I didn’t like the man.
     
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  4. realred1952

    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    surely the comment that money was available to "stay within budget" whether he, AS, stayed or went actually answers the point you make about there being no money!!!
    NP has a history of being at odds to owners/ supiors etc .. lets hope he is not slipping down this slope now! to avoid his dissapointments at the present situation!!!
     
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  5. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Not really, why did both NP, and Tinnion believe there was a plan a if Scott not sold, and a plan B if he was. Surely that suggests things changed?
     
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    RedorDead Well-Known Member

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    Here’s a question for you.
    SL wants to stop funding the club, would you rather him stop funding this year with £30-35 million buffer.
    Or next year when it’s a possibility we’ve no sales, leaving BCFC with debts?
     
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  7. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    The problem we have, is we Don’t know all the facts, we don’t know what NP has asked for if anything.. maybe the signings made was requested by NP.. It was quite common knowledge that Scott would leave, we were just waiting on clubs to hit the target that our club set..
    You are ranting a lot, but if as far as the club was concerned we had to reduce the wage bill.. then that is what happened.
    However. I do agree with you that our squad is light on numbers but I wouldn’t have thought that is a great shock to Nige.
    I’ve still not heard Nige complaining or even mentioning that we need certain players..
    I actually believe he likes them coming through from the academy, so maybe that’s what he wants to work with.
    Famous words from Hanson. “you can’t win anything with youngsters”!
    Maybe Nige thinks himself a bit of a Fergie!!
     
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  8. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    Bristol Live understands Pearson’s desire is very much to remain at the club and further build on what he’s been responsible for creating. Never mind the affection he has developed for the club, and the area.
     
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  9. realred1952

    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    No the comment was ........

    [QUOTE="wizered, post: 16979235, member: 1000754"]Bristol City CEO Phil Alexander insists the Robins spent a portion of the Alex Scott transfer fee before the midfielder’s £25million sale was sanctioned to Bournemouth, as owner Steve Lansdown’s budget laid out at the start of the year demanded the club be more self-sufficient and less reliant on his own personal investment.[/QUOTE]

    This is a real wake up call to the staff...... "you have become complacent, and expect I am going to wipe your bums when you have performed a load of poooo"

    Always it is imperative to read the articles/ take on board the comments .. all of them and treat them as they like "joined up writing" .. so much time and energy on here is picking odd bits that suit ones thinking and glorifying it! SL has put in a lot of cash, has a plan which disintegrates due to "something" not of his making!!
    He probably feels now "they think if they dont try harder and get it right I will plug the gap ...another £20m or so and start again"
    Amazing how he gets slagged off by some , but always the provisio .... " he has put a lot of money in, brought us from below an average club to an approaching the top for ameneties etc". WE as fans have been blessed by an owner that has tried and been frustrated by lack of progress.
    Did I want NP as manager? actually not on my list, but he is here and gets my support to a greater degree. His comments are controversial " ask them upstairs" can be taken both ways as a before and after an event ... a bit of sarcasm his comment really!

    Truth is he got the amount of money promised whether or not AS left! ... was given a budget he agreed to for this season ... like how much to spend/ how much for transfers/ wage bill cap! .. if he didnt agree fully why is he still here now!
    what else is the truth ? we were told by him, NP, that we needed certain players with a [ rotatable ? ] cover for each of them, he apparently, looking at present squad managed that [ maybe GK area weak ] but injuries to 5 and AS leaving has put his, NP's skills to the test!
    He, NP, the team and the fans just need to get on with it, as for certain, negativity is a real dampener on most if not everything
     
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  10. Red Robin

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    This is a real wake up call to the staff...... "you have become complacent, and expect I am going to wipe your bums when you have performed a load of poooo"

    Always it is imperative to read the articles/ take on board the comments .. all of them and treat them as they like "joined up writing" .. so much time and energy on here is picking odd bits that suit ones thinking and glorifying it! SL has put in a lot of cash, has a plan which disintegrates due to "something" not of his making!!
    He probably feels now "they think if they dont try harder and get it right I will plug the gap ...another £20m or so and start again"
    Amazing how he gets slagged off by some , but always the provisio .... " he has put a lot of money in, brought us from below an average club to an approaching the top for ameneties etc". WE as fans have been blessed by an owner that has tried and been frustrated by lack of progress.
    Did I want NP as manager? actually not on my list, but he is here and gets my support to a greater degree. His comments are controversial " ask them upstairs" can be taken both ways as a before and after an event ... a bit of sarcasm his comment really!

    Truth is he got the amount of money promised whether or not AS left! ... was given a budget he agreed to for this season ... like how much to spend/ how much for transfers/ wage bill cap! .. if he didnt agree fully why is he still here now!
    what else is the truth ? we were told by him, NP, that we needed certain players with a [ rotatable ? ] cover for each of them, he apparently, looking at present squad managed that [ maybe GK area weak ] but injuries to 5 and AS leaving has put his, NP's skills to the test!
    He, NP, the team and the fans just need to get on with it, as for certain, negativity is a real dampener on most if not everything[/QUOTE]

    So who would you have liked as manager -interested to know.
     
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  11. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    So who would you have liked as manager -interested to know.[/QUOTE]
    I actually believe we do have a decent manager on board (maybe not for the same reasons as you RR)
    I do like that he try’s his best with what we have.. I think he is into building a squad to fit, rather than spending millions on big time Charlie’s that think they are better than they really are, I also like the way he try’s to bring players in from the academy (when he feels they’re ready.
    However.. I do have a concern, sometimes the way he sets his team up etc..
    I have seen glimpses of how I’m hoping he wants us to play last season just after the World Cup.. it did fizzle out and we’ve have several players come and go since then.. Maybe the players we now have just need time to all be singing from the same hymn book..
    This needs to be his best season imo and I believe it will be. As it sits, my glass is half full..
     
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    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    You won't, it's not his way.
    The number of times we've both heard 'I'm not wasting energy on things I can't effect' is countless, tbf usually about our injuries.

    I do hope he's offered a new contract, he's certainly, in my eyes, earned it.
     
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  13. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    Bit early in the season for me to start talking about renewing contracts..
    Personally I would prefer to wait a few months and see where we’re at.. I think those sort of distractions are not a good idea when he’s still trying to work out his best team selections, tactics and getting the new players to gel.
    Certainly by Christmas, if we have no relegation fears and the players are all on board with Nige’s playing methods and are all putting in a shift for him.. Then 100% he should be offered a new contract..
     
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  14. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    For me he is in credit and we should not be messing about-players-fans all know where we are and singing from the same hymn sheet.
     
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  15. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    Not if we end up having a relegation battle.. He's had the years to put a team together to compete in this league.
    This season should give an idea where it's going....IMO no rush....
     
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    No the comment was
     
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    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    I dont have an opinion on WHO i T MIGHT BE OR WHO IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN! ... Unlike many on here ... "not qualified to make a wish list ".... lol
     
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  18. AshtonRed

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    This is a real wake up call to the staff...... "you have become complacent, and expect I am going to wipe your bums when you have performed a load of poooo"

    Always it is imperative to read the articles/ take on board the comments .. all of them and treat them as they like "joined up writing" .. so much time and energy on here is picking odd bits that suit ones thinking and glorifying it! SL has put in a lot of cash, has a plan which disintegrates due to "something" not of his making!!
    He probably feels now "they think if they dont try harder and get it right I will plug the gap ...another £20m or so and start again"
    Amazing how he gets slagged off by some , but always the provisio .... " he has put a lot of money in, brought us from below an average club to an approaching the top for ameneties etc". WE as fans have been blessed by an owner that has tried and been frustrated by lack of progress.
    Did I want NP as manager? actually not on my list, but he is here and gets my support to a greater degree. His comments are controversial " ask them upstairs" can be taken both ways as a before and after an event ... a bit of sarcasm his comment really!

    Truth is he got the amount of money promised whether or not AS left! ... was given a budget he agreed to for this season ... like how much to spend/ how much for transfers/ wage bill cap! .. if he didnt agree fully why is he still here now!
    what else is the truth ? we were told by him, NP, that we needed certain players with a [ rotatable ? ] cover for each of them, he apparently, looking at present squad managed that [ maybe GK area weak ] but injuries to 5 and AS leaving has put his, NP's skills to the test!
    He, NP, the team and the fans just need to get on with it, as for certain, negativity is a real dampener on most if not everything[/QUOTE]



    You talk twaddle,

    the version of events around the meeting in March differs between members of the management team, Tinnion and NP believed there was a plan A and a plan B, depending on whether Alex was sold or not. No one, neither SL or the CEO ever contradicted that suggesiin when it was in the public domain before Scott was sold, until our CEO went on RB after the window had closed.

    The question is whose version of events is correct, and also why are there two differing accounts of the meeting?.

    You say, the truth is he got the amount of money he was promised . How do you know that? , I didn’t realise you were at the meeting. (See above in relation to two different versions of the March meeting)

    We are a football club, whilst it’s nice to have a shiny new stadium and training facilities it’s the team that matters to most of us. if there isn’t enough investment in the team we’re likely to have amazing facilities but a League 1 team.

    SL is a business man, but knows diddly squat about football. Much of the money he ploughs in to the club is due to bad football decisions made by himself.

    Whatever the Rights and wrongs of the version of events of the March meeting, what is clear to see by anyone with common sense, is we don’t have a big enough squad. For the CEO and by implication SL to try to suggest otherwise, in the RB interview is one of the bad football decisions referenced in the previous paragraph.

    NP is getting on with it, you probably didn’t watch the Swansea game, if you did you would have seen the togetherness and pulling together and team spirit within the team. That’s great, but it’ll only get you so far ,

    in order to be successful we need more players, ultimately I don’t really care who said what to who, and when , I’m much more interested in ensuring we’re equipped to be as successful as possible., which at the moment we aren’t .

    I was in favour of NP joining, and I honestly can’t think of anyone else I’d rather have had guiding us through the last couple of difficult years.

    You say you weren’t particularly in favour of NP becoming our manager, who would you have preferred, and if he goes who would you replace him with.
     
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  19. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    That’s funny you said previously he wasn’t on your list,

    “Did I want NP as manager? actually not onmy list, but he is here and gets mysupport to a greater degree.”

    now you say you aren’t qualified to make a list, which is it ?
     
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  20. AshtonRed

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    I actually believe we do have a decent manager on board (maybe not for the same reasons as you RR)
    I do like that he try’s his best with what we have.. I think he is into building a squad to fit, rather than spending millions on big time Charlie’s that think they are better than they really are, I also like the way he try’s to bring players in from the academy (when he feels they’re ready.
    However.. I do have a concern, sometimes the way he sets his team up etc..
    I have seen glimpses of how I’m hoping he wants us to play last season just after the World Cup.. it did fizzle out and we’ve have several players come and go since then.. Maybe the players we now have just need time to all be singing from the same hymn book..
    This needs to be his best season imo and I believe it will be. As it sits, my glass is half full..[/QUOTE]


    Agree with most of this, in relation to it having to be his best season, I believe it wii be , but once again he’s going to have to do it with his hands tied behind his back. I was hoping the board, having seen his relative success, would free up a bit more of the budget to have the resources to enable him to have as good a chance as possible, regrettably I don’t believe that’s the case.
     
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