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Is the world at a dangerous crossroad?

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  1. invermeremike

    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    I have just read that Prigozhin is presumed dead after a plane crash near Moscow on which he was listed as a passenger. How surprising is that event and is it an act of revenge by the monster Putin? Perhaps the plaudits of the Wagner Group may now start asking questions, to which there will be the usual lack of answers, as to how this happened and was there a bad smell of a rat near the scene of the crime. Nothing makes me ask anymore as it will be what it will be and the truth one day will come out, but perhaps only in a Hollywood movie.
     
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    Prigozhin and other Wagner group leaders all confirmed dead after the private jet they were on was shot down

    Pretty predictable I’d say
     
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  3. invermeremike

    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    I'm actually shocked that this would happen to such an affable guy who was well liked in all murdering societies. :emoticon-0136-giggl I am waiting for Putin to blame Ukraine for his bad intentions and, if indeed it was Zelensky, then full kudos to him. :emoticon-0137-clapp
     
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    One monster kills another - predictably.

    Who would want to be a senior military commander with anything to do with Putains regime?
     
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    Makes a change from falling out of a window I suppose
     
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    Or drinking a dodgy cup of tea…..
     
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    ......so when will it happen to Vlad?
     
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    He’s the one who arranges it, hardly going to arrange for his own demise is he ?, I see no end tbh, if anyone else becomes powerful enough to top Vlad goodness knows what they’ll going to be like , maybe better the devil you know.
     
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    If there is any serious attempt to get rid of Putin it will surely come from within his own hierarchy ?
     
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    My concern is will they be even more hard line
     
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    there has been rumblings in the past week/10 days from the hardcore inner circle that things are not going well and popularity from the population is showing descent as Putrid is "weak" .. they want more battlefield aggression! hence the banning of unofficial photo's ....
     
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    I imagine the downing of the plane was to demonstrate he’s not weak
     
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    think of Joan of Arc! THOSE IN POWER SAW HER AS A THREAT ..... and what happened ... rallying point and martyr!

    RUSSIA ASSUME
    just 5% of the population is on the side of Wagner!
    20% just dont care keeps themselves to themselves!
    55% are supposedly pro Kremlin/ Putrid [ brainwashed a lot of them or in fear]
    20% are out and out anti Kremlin and anti Putrid

    Already there is 2 now maybe 3 groups anti Kremlin anti war against Ukraine [ drones are being launched from somewhere! ]
    Hardcore Wagner are a starting point whether it is proved HE DIED / ACCIDENT/ WAS MURDERED ! a nucleus that will seek revenge on their concieved murderers!
    Also troops are only about 35% in number proffessionals the rest conscripts that are being in a lot of cases forced to kill or be killed ... and their families likely in the 20% grouping of anti Putrid.
    Slowly there is little chips appearing ... Surovikin likely next, probably dies of ill health and cremated in hours to stop PM ! economy faltering, interest rates being jacked up, death's of the regular soldiers [ or is it conscripts almos double figures every hour?]
    I was half expecting at least 1 pipeline supplying gas to Moscow last winter was blown up! this winter I reckon will be a cert!

    Reading between the lines I think Crimea has not seen the worst.... there are many ukranians living there still and all potential spies .. the dock yard [ for years always been russian , by rental! ] potentially will be a major target and the bridge is going to get a major hit although the sinking of old ferries to stop sea drones wont be enough ..............
     
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    No evidence to say he was on the plane-could just be a smoke screen to take him out of the limelight.
     
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    Things must be developing, last I heard he was one of the ones killed along with several of his cronies, at least they were on the manifest and all occupants confirmed dead.
     
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    Your only getting to hear what they want you to hear-media spill asking the herds to follow what they want you to hear.
     
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    I was watching an English documentary called "Top Guns" I believe just a few days ago and it showed pilots with the RAF going on a mission along the Estonian border with Russia. They were scrambled to intercept some planes coming too close to the border and when they arrived on scene they found 2 Russian fighters supposedly escorting a passenger type aircraft and trailed them until they turned back to the north. I don't know when that footage was taken, in the documentary, but I found it somewhat strange that within 2 days of watching that scenario on TV I heard of the incident involving Prigozhin which happened right in the area that the interception was made. Was I watching the training exercise for the incident or was it just the Russian bear poking us in the eye?
     
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    a pretty drastic way of doing that ..... unless they had 10 dead bodies .. and the pilot took off then jumped.!
     
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    At first the media were speculating the aircraft had been shot down
    The latest theory from US intelligence sources is that there may have been a bomb on board
     
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