I'm sure I'm not the only one who is confused by the idea that he should sue for defamation. Wouldn't that involve sueing the people who accused him in the first place, then withdrew their evidence for whatever reason so that CPS dropped the charges? Doesn't seem like his safest course of action. Probably best to celebrate his good fortune at not being in prison and get on with a football career abroad. I'm sure Saudi Arabia would consider him ideally qualified.
I suspect I’ve confused matters. I was saying if it was me, and I really wanted to stand by ‘I didn’t do what I was accused of’ and I truly hadn’t, I’d be trying to prove that by suing for defamation and rescuing my career and reputation. But he isn’t and obviously won’t because he’s supposedly still with the person who accused him. It’s clearly a mess.
It’s a mess because everyone knows he’s done it, so if he were to go down that route, whether they were together or not, people would think even less of him. His best case scenario would probably have been for the family to sabotage the case, take it to the end and be found not guilty by the legal system. Then nobody could really complain about his return to football.
The findings would have to be that the accusations weren't true in order for defamation to even have a chance in court. I hate the court of public opinion normally with these things but the evidence she shared online is damning and I imagine any proceedings would get stopped for that evidence alone. Not to mention he appears to, rightly or wrongly, have reconciled his relationship with the alleged victim after she dropped the charges. I imagine he just wants to move on. If you wanted to clear your name in this instance you'd have about a 0.0001% chance
Yes exactly, that’s my point. The face saving ‘I didn’t do what I was accused of’ in the statements isn’t doing anything other than making it all look even more messy, without action like this.
It’s just a statement He has no intention of doing anything to ‘prove’ he didn’t do anything wrong for all sorts of reasons. One quite big one I imagine. That’s just a statement so someone with no knowledge can read it and be left at least wondering whether it was a bad as they’d heard, and someone in many years time might read it and think he was a little hard done to. That’s all. Nothing more.
Honestly I dont know how what I said refers to your point. I'm saying if he were to pursue legal action he'd probably have 0.0001% chance. It will take heaps of time but eventually everyone will forget about Greenwood. If he drags his name through the mud by pursuing a defamation case frivolously he would have his name in the media again for ages. It would be the categorically the second stupidest thing he could do right now with the first being reoffending. If he moves on the worst thing that happens is that he secures a move abroad somewhere and plays out his career. Media picks up his name when makes his debut or if he's playing well but that would be about it.
I would be more likely to as that's the intention but ultimately its one of those crimes that puts a mark on your name forever
Some would, some wouldn't. Same as every criminal back in society. I worked on a rig, where a popular and well liked man, who'd been working there 15 years, got arrested, charged and found guilty of sexually abusing his grandchild. He did two years inside and then had a right to come back to work as a fire watchman. No one would work with him, eat with him or socialise with him, so eventually his company had to pay him off and put him in early retirement. At the same time, I've worked with several ppl who have been in prison for assault and one for manslaughter, so clearly we all have our invisible boundaries when it comes to rehabilitated criminals.
Mason Greenwood potentially moving to a club in Saudi Arabia would be "very surprising", a senior league source has told BBC Sport. Forward Greenwood, 21, will leave Manchester United by mutual agreement after a six-month internal investigation into his conduct. Saudi teams have spent lavishly on big-name signings this summer and Greenwood has been discussed internally. However, the league feels it would not be the right move currently. The acquisition of players in Saudi Arabia works differently to elsewhere, with the league doing the bidding or deals for players before assigning which club they will play for. Last year also saw the inaugural season of the Saudi Women's Premier League. Women's football in Saudi is "breaking records," the first female vice-president of the Saudi Arabian Football Federation (Saff) Lamia Bahaian said on Friday. The Saff recorded an 86% rise in registered female players last year, while the number of women's clubs nationally also rose by 56%.
Well, it’s pretty much common knowledge that Ferguson intimidated journalists and did his best to prevent anything sordid coming out about his players. He protected the likes of Giggs for years. No way he didn’t know what a **** he was. You could argue that protecting his players both on and off the field was his responsibility as a manager but there’s been a culture of cover-ups and complicity at Man Utd for years. Not unique to them though. I’m sure every club has a few skeletons in their lockers. Regarding Greenwood, it’s clear Man Utd tried their hardest to find a way of bringing him back again but have capitulated to the court of public opinion. He might not have been convicted of anything but we all heard those recordings. Him reconciling and having a child with his victim doesn’t change anything. Supposedly, victims go back to their abusers 7 times on average before leaving them for good. Whether he can change and atone for his actions is between him and his partner but I don’t think he should play football professionally ever again. Young men make mistakes but battering your partner and threatening to rape her isn’t a mistake.
In a poll 42% of man united fans were happy for him to continue playing at the club. You can assume that would be the similar ratio if he signed for any English club. I can imagine some desperate clubs taking a chance on him.
David Goodwillie and Ched Evans are both still playing I think, won't be on top dollar though by a long way.
Goodwillie isn't playing and Evans got proven in a court of law of his innocence. They're completely different
Not that dissimilar, both were vilified in the press, public opinion was largely against them. In law Greenwood's done no wrong. Goodwillie seems to be connected to Glasgow United and he still claims he's innocent.
