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  1. invermeremike

    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    False flags have been widely used by many nations in their attempts to make up another reason why things are getting worse against the opponents. Hitler used several false flag type operations leading up to the start of WW2 including Germans soldiers dressed up as Polish Army to do some bombings of radio stations close to the border. Are you really saying that you think a lot, or most, of these cross border incidents that put Russian civilians at risk of death or injury are sanctioned by Putin? I can remember quite a few years ago where an apartment building was essentially demolished somewhere deep in the depths of Russia's hinterland by a large explosion that was later determined to have been set up by the Kremlin, apparently to send a message to someone who didn't like Putin and his rule of terror. I am totally skeptical of most words coming from Putin and so I suspect him of everything bad inflicted on the Russian population, and the one where I really did smell a very large rat were the drones that hit the Kremlin a few months ago. I read today that NATO and the EU suspect that many Wagner troops, currently in Belarus, are now slithering across the border into Poland, and possibly other countries, where trouble could be inflamed by these mercenary thugs interested in nothing else other than murder.

    The world is sliding into a very dark area and with the advancement of Wagner murderers taking over a lot of Central Africa, with Russian support, and the future of the sub-saharan part of Africa is falling under the influence of either Russia or China. If there is any bright light it is probably that neither Russia or China are likely to join forces in their individual attempts to take over and influence massive parts of the globe to gain control over millions of poor susceptible peoples and their lands and resources. Sad old world but, rather like "The Chump" in the Excited States, Putin would be one of my prime targets for something very bad to happen to that could help out our beautiful world. What site do you use for most of your info?
     
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    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    As an afterthought I see that Putin, after the cancellation of the grain export agreement, is lately targeting the infrastructure in the dock area and other shipping facilities to further disrupt the possibility of further shipments. I am finding his obsession with stopping Ukrainian grain supplies being shipped seemingly flies in the face of his supposed love affair with African countries, some of which are the most in need of those vital supplies. How can they have faith in someone who has the solution to their food security in one hand and with the other he is cutting off his nose to spite his two faces and denying Africa at the same time? I hope his counter productive actions can wake up the African continent to his lies and finally see that he doesn't give a jot about their welfare, but only about his personal gratification.
     
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    Vast and various ... Start off with BBC site and my hour pre breakfast ... then use various key words that turn up news channels / info etc

    Well you have to absorb the whole picture and have an out look that takes into account the mindset and evil tendency of the Russian heirachy! Putrid is like the leader of a gang of kids in a kindergarte .. throwing toys out of pram when he doesnt get what he wants. EVIL MINDS HAVE THE ABILTY to be able to orchestrate things .. like an author planning a book ! The key is the last paragraph or last 2 paragraph's.
    St Peterburg [ his home town ] Certain African Nations have had to come to him as where the talks just completed had supposed to have been if he travelled there he should be arrested [ I think the best 5 venues were all ICC ] SO THIS is the last but one paragraph! The last is yet be played out although hints on it have been forthcoming.
    The story leading up various parts ... he decides to not support the grain deal because toys out the pram etc but the plot is the popularity of Ukraine in parts of Africa because they getting grain from Ukraine really pisses off Putrid, so stage one stop the grain deal, part 2 is destroy the ability of Ukraine to ship grain to Africa or other parts. I think Romanian ports are used to SHIP Ukranian grain, as well as the Danube taking grain into central Europe! ,SO for a week he attempts to destroy Ukraines ability store and ship grain by missile / drone attacks. This leads then to accusations of killing the world by food blackmail , especially Africa!!! But its part of the plan WE Russia can supply everyone in NEED [ not Europe ] and ship 300,000 tones of grain free of charge to 6 or more countries in Africa, Also supplying the needs of the rest with Ukranian not needed because we ramped up our ability to produce more 2/3 years ago! All but one of the Countries getting free graIn is not under the thumb of Wagner / Russian FORCES INFLUENCE! .... Russia has never really been a part of the world aid programme in any form so they try and butter their bread both sides by sending [ purporting to in future ] grain to Somalia!
    The last paragraph has yet to be written.. bit like a soap opera! will it be this that or the other! Restart grain agreement / do his plan destroy Ukrainian grain storage / production *** / or simply stop Ukraine shipping it and do so himself?

    *** the breaching of the dam a few weeks back meant 10's of 000's acres or agriculural commodities grain/ sunflower oil was damaged destroyed!

    Note if Russia has increased as they say wheat production [ or grains ]by 10?/ 20? /30?/?% when the warring evil dwarf gets defeated there will more for the planet not a bad thing!
     
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    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    It’s rumoured that the Russians and the Wagner Group were also behind the coup in Niger last week, which is why only 17 African leaders are meeting with Putin rather than 43.
     
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    check out the dash cam footage of one of the drones exploding ... in an area of "works" building or other .. also Dash cam is silent, just background noise and the explosion .. unless you are expecting that or are a mute no scream or shout at point of or just after! Also vehicle has flashers going! but no sound.... if they got sent off with explosion then the alarm is is synced with the flashers! ....
    THE ODD WITNESS OR 2 ALL SAID heard explosion and saw fire no one said anything about debris!
     
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    "We heard an explosion and it was like a wave, everyone jumped," she said.
    "Then there was a lot of smoke and you couldn't see anything. From above, you could see fire."

    Really 4am! dashcam shows no people, possibly only 3 cars with occupants driver of dash cam vehicle / flasher? / car ahead, long way , brake lights on! ...makes you wonder?
     
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    when will the world say enough is enough and clamp down on the evil destruction of Russia destroying Ukranian grain to be able to sell its own stockpiles ...... Could Nato decide to put a presence in the air to protect the food distribution points... enforce a no fly zone ! ............

    A Russian drone strike has hit Ukrainian port facilities at Izmail on the River Danube, a short distance from Nato member state Romania.
    A grain warehouse, a passenger building and an elevator for loading grain have all been damaged.
    Russia began targeting Ukraine's ports after abandoning a UN deal that enabled both countries to export grain safely across the Black Sea.....EVIL
     
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    UPPING THE ANTE

    Ukraine declares all Black Sea ports 'military threat zones'

    Ukraine has declared all Russian Black Sea ports and the waters around them as "military threat zones", the Kyiv Post reports.
    This will last until 23 August - when it expects all commercial vessels trading with Russia to have left the Black Sea.
    It covers the internal and external harbour areas around the ports of Anapa, Novorossiysk, Gelendzhik, Tuapse, Sochi, and Taman.

    They [ Ukraine] MUST HAVE QUITE A STOCK sea based drones! And are really taking the fight to Putrid! ... Adopting a similar parrallel attitude "we will destroy your means to export" it s now OK you want to stop us well we take up the baton and have our ....... The SBU (Ukrainian Security Service) said the "successful special operation"
    It is interesting the passage under/ near the Kerch bridge is quite shallow! and ships have to que to pass through .... so sitting ducks! Conversation with a person up on drone warfare ... UKRAINE could be developing / already have drones that are sent to a point and have timed communication windows they sit there for a day or 2 or ... then get activated for maybe a x minute period to move position .... sitting just below the water line! Speed might be their main problem they weigh about 700-800kgs?

    40 COUNTRIES at the "peace talks" including China ... maybe because Russia no invited and they wish to report back to Putrid ...wonder what evil deed Putrids EVIL THUGS will have in store to celebrate todays "peace talks" ... missile a hospital or a couple high rise flats >>>>>>
     
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    true to their evil form Putrids evil thugs take out a blood transfusion centre ...


    A Russian guided air bomb has hit a blood transfusion centre in north-eastern Ukraine, killing and injuring people, Ukraine's president has said.
    Volodymyr Zelensky said rescuers were now trying to tackle a blaze after the strike on the Kupiansk community in the Kharkiv region on Saturday night.
    "Defeating terrorists is a matter of honour for everyone who values life," he added.
    Russia has so far not publicly commented on the reported attack.
     
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    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    A week of real EVIL from the Russian side, deliberate attack on a community MISSILE 1 causes damage to civilian infra structure .. emergency services respond .. 30 mins later 2nd missile!
    Numerous civilian villages attacked this week causing very sad death's to the innocent. This includes a number of civilians caught up in a gun battle between Russian troops .. arguing amongst themselves !
    Ukraine not getting it all their own way! as gains and losses!
    Piracy on the black sea? .. as Russian naval ship opens fire on a unrelated to EITHER SIDE cargo ship... the first one to run the blockade! Flagged in Palau [ micronesia ] has no connections to either side other than collects / delivers cargo ....

    Will this be a point of contention ... standing up to Russia ...what will happen if a boat/ ship from a Nato flagged country runs the guantlet! and get fired upon! WILL Ukraine be using sea drones to protect SHIPPING ?
     
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    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    Sooner, rather than later, Russia will make a mistake and it will be up to the West to decide whether or not it was a deliberate act of aggression or just a miscalculation. Putin wants all of Ukraine to be his and unless we, as the reasonable minds in all of this mess, act accordingly then we risk democracy across the globe. Thankfully the repercussions of Russia's actions in Ukraine will not affect my life but those about whom I care about will have to mop up the mess, that is if there's anything left after the conflagration. Shades of Hitler still lurk in the darker areas of our beautiful world.
     
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    I wonder what the reaction to 120,000 lost souls will have the population of Russia when the truth dawns. Ok, they have cleared out the prisons of some undesireables using them as canon fodder, figures vary wildly from 10,000 to 15,000 killed probably 1000 done a runner? and a few hundred back in clink?
    The 10 year plus war in afghanistan saw 15,000 killed and when that figure broke it was soon ended as the population didnt like that number being killed! Russia currently reports 6000 killed so far! The Russian people must be really gullible to believe that. Drones hitting Moscow a dozen now, NO DEATH'S AND VERY FEW INJURIES.. and damage looks quite superficial???
    played and replayed the video of the hit this am on the expo building it is about 500m away and a very prounouced crack [ different explosives have different speeds of completion?] There is no sign of any object just prior to ignition.. are these false flags? All have been [ most ] corners and none have landed on the ground?
    marine drones ... Ukraine building up to a multi strike on the bridge and maybe a concerted attack on Sebastopol. Point of query! ... how do these maritime drones mange to travel 750 kms .. if you have ever been to Hull city football club ground that is a round trip for one of these little boats [ they weigh about 850 kgs loaded ] lithium polymer batteries ?
    another thought is the indiscimiante shelling of non military villages ... is it a sort of pinsticker event? there seems to no pattern to it
     
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    I wonder if any of the pilots are training for other aircraft .... like here in the UK for the euro fighter!
    come next spring Ukraine could have over 100 fighter planes! ..hopefully not to late ... they need air defences more so and a better ammo supply.. and a few thousand more anti tank weapons that have so far been deadly .. not just against tanks!

    more evil over the weekend using ballistic missile to destroy the main building and town square at Cherniv..
    Russians beginning to wonder why so many drone attacks .. is it false flags for most of the reports? to say to the gullible ... look we are being attacked by them and the west ...!
    HARDLINER oligarh's and "others" want the 2 leadint Putridites sacked and replaced and to ramp up the "ante" .. Shoigu maybe GERISAMOV unlikely?
    quote from the danish attache to Denmark ..
    "By hiding behind a premise that Ukraine itself must determine the conditions for peace, Denmark seeks with its actions and words to leave Ukraine with no other choice but to continue the military confrontation with Russia."
    How warped and brain washed is these Russian Diplo's or is it [DIMLO'S? ] THE CONFRONTATION is of Russia's.. well Putrids making Ukraine just defending itself from a bully and the rest of the world in the play ground standing behing them
     
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    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    I must confess that during my recent 12 day absence in Alberta where my son doesn't have any news channels available, so my granddaughters can't see all the world horrors, I turned off all thoughts in regards to Ukraine. When I returned to my normal life I found myself less eager to see and hear the atrocities that Russia is inflicting on Ukrainians and the wild fires burning throughout Canada took priority as you can imagine. Due to all of the other disasters around the globe most news channels almost put the conflict on the back page and my thoughts turned to hoping that the same scenario doesn't come into play with the nations supporting Ukraine. The nose to nose fighting seems to have taken a step backward but the indiscriminate targeting of civilian targets has been upped, apparently by both sides and although I was glad to see Zelensky taking the war to Russia I hope he doesn't piss off the dictator too much so as to spark something worse. In all honestly I don't think Vlad the destroyer of humanity has the balls to up the ante to such a point that the West will have to get involved with boots on the ground. This conflict is now turning into a long term guerilla type war that could go on for many years and if Russia's history in Afghanistan and Syria is anything to go by then there is hope for a reversal, but I won't hold my breath as we are dealing with a psychopath not a human being and that changes all the rules of sanity.

    I am rather hoping that the flight training needed by Ukrainian pilots to fly the new aircraft that are now at their disposal is way more advanced than some supporting countries are prepared to admit, which could mean an earlier dominance of the skies over Ukraine. Putin used the invasion of Ukraine supposedly to stem the rise of Nazism and to counter the threat of Western nations invading Russia, which we all know was a load of bollocks. During my brief time in the Territorials we were taken up close to the Iron Curtain in West Germany and told that one day this may be the site of the start of WW3 and how those words have stuck in my memory, especially with what is happening in that vital area. Putin has only created more attention by the West and the new border between them and us has grown by a huge margin and has also included a more difficult Baltic presence for the Russian Navy due to new members of NATO. Be careful what you do and say Vladimir because the world is watching and it isn't through rose coloured glasses.
     
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    A flagship Russian long-range bomber has been destroyed in a Ukrainian drone strike, according to reports.

    hey ho RUSSIAN INTERPRETATION of the above picture .....
    Moscow said that a drone was hit by small-arms fire but managed to "damage" a plane. Ukraine has not commented.

    "The UAV was detected by the airfield's observation outpost and was hit with small-arms fire," the ministry said.
    "One airplane was damaged; there were no casualties as a result of the terrorist act."
    The statement also said a fire which broke out in the airfield parking lot was quickly extinguished.

    However, images posted on the social media platform Telegram showed a large fire engulfing a jet with the distinctive nose cone of the Tu-22. BBC Verify analysed the images and believes them to be credible.
    However, the Russian MoD's description of the drone as a "copter-type UAV" suggests a cheap, commercially available device launched at short range....quick nip round to Currys and get a couple, sale on £49.99p

    According to prosecutors in Kyiv, 30 people were killed when a Tu-22-launched missile hit a block of flats in Dnipro in January.
    They said Russia's 52nd Guards Bomber Aviation Regiment carried out the attack. The regiment is based at Soltsy-2.
    BBC Verify confirmed the location of the Ukrainian drone attack on Soltsy-2 by comparing visual clues - such as the appearance of aircraft and bays - to historical satellite images of the airbase.
    The remnants of the aircraft visible in the footage are consistent with that of a Tu-22M3..... oh well 59 more to go......

    there are 2 anti Putrid anti war groups in RUSSIA.... are they the culprits?
    RUSSIA has a 2 and 3 layer defensive shield around Moscow covers right up to and int UKRAINE [ 400 MILES ] SOwould surely shoot down drones launched from UKRAINE LONG BEFORE THEY REACH MOSCOW!
     
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    His objective was to strangle Kyiv take over the donbas and sit back for a while like crimea! didnt expect the one man and his anti tank weapon was a very dangerous weapon and Ukraine had hundreds of them... and even more alarmingly this time the whole west took notice and he has become one of the most notorious murderers of his own than any other leader of the Russian empire.

    At one stage of his career he was for a very short time a Jimmy opposite AND LOOKED TO BE the right fit to rule Russia... I guess once a criminal always a criminal when the truth is known 120,000 dead and growing by the day ... the s*** will surely hit the fan
     
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    I have difficulty understanding why the Russian population isn't more aware of what Putin's special operation has brought to the country's doorstep. Putin put a clampdown on the news reaching the street but surely there has to be a percentage of the population that are getting the sad reality of what's actually happening. What happened to all of those men seen waiting to cross the border to sanity when a new conscription order was implemented, as they were shown in their thousands taking to the road to escape? Let's just suppose that somehow all of the truth were to hit the streets of Russia in such a way as to put serious doubts in the population's minds, I then ask what would really happen? We all thought that during the reign of Gorbachev when the Berlin Wall came down, and just about all of the ex-Soviet states headed towards independence, that the Cold War was well and truly banished for eternity. Sadly that did not come to pas for very long and another Russian murderer took over the reins with sweet smiles and diplomacy and eventually the real truth became very evident to the entire world, and we just sat by and watched when action would have spoken larger than words. I truly can never see Putin standing aside by default and unless someone takes his neck by force then we are in for a long struggle to remove the likes of him, Assad and many others whose sole intents are to hold the world in fear of destruction. An end to all war would be my dream but unfortunately there are way too many who thrive on killing, and the latest news that the Saudis are shooting Somali and Yemeni refugees on sight at the border brings even more scrutiny as to why we are pandering to murderers that are known to the entire planet? The world is in a difficult spot but at least we need to look at where our money is misspent and for me there are certain countries and ideals that we have to cut out of our budget forever because dealing and pandering to them is counter productive.
     
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    there is the 200,000 who managed to flee on the last conscription call up!
    They say only 6000 killed ... then why do they need to call 300,00 and then some more!!! then all the prisoners! now widened the age gap and looking to call up another 100,000!
    did you bother to listen Putrid at BRIC..... [ dubbed ] He painted a rosy picture of the Russian economy!!! ... when over the last 7 days it has been laid bare with the opposite to what he said he said " a small surplus" blamed on world conditions, didnt say since we started a war! other sources put the economy £29bn in the red [ might be dollars ] and inflation taking a hold. Russians now falling into debt to survive and interest rates are now in excess of ?% above bank rate! which is 12% .

    SABOTEURS .. START of the summer a large contingent of Ukranians were at LOCH EWE? I think it was learning their trade as sabbo's etc .. dividends being paid? I suppose drop a small lump of C4 on the wing of a plane when fuelled up and you get quite a display.
    Another answer to your Q why dont they know? a lot do but now the law is is prison if you photo graph a state of the art bomber on fire [ just a small one in the carpark :emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl: ] .. so these embarrassments are now being kept from the general population.

    Africa after the BRIC talks will be interesting as there is some resentment by "the locals" at throwing in with the Ruskies is not wanted! When will these african nations get their heads around their own problems . ... every leader [ most ] after being elected for a year or so turns dictator and robs the country filling their own pockets ... just like the Oligarch's
     
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    Today it was announced that a former oil minister in Nigeria is facing fraud charges - so no surprize there then. You clearly pay more attention to all of the news across the globe and so you are able to inform more than I. It's interesting to see all of the other nations falling in behind Putin hoping for more aid, and the inevitable high cost of carrying such a financial load, and a securer future for them alone, and to hell with the plebs. Greed is power and all of the other bad words to describe self-appointed leaders of nations but the success is gained by the people and we have to hope that the general population of Russia will finally smell out the rat and rebel to change the future of their country. Whether or not we will ever reach that point is all up for grabs and the responses from the supporters of Ukraine will be vital, both in their content, but more importantly their affect on the conflict. Stay strong Ukraine.
     
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    when they pick ballot counters you can bet that 9 out of ten are staunch Putrid backers so when a vote gets to the point of say 20, 000 for and 20, 000 against with 10,00 votes to go mysteriously 6,000 of the oppositions votes dissapper [ or more ]
     
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