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Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Libby, Aug 4, 2017.

  1. Bumps

    Bumps Well-Known Member

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    Seen a lot of Pep love from your good self last few days
    A lot = 2 messages
    But my question is simple
    Pep are Alex ?
    Who is the best ?
     
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  2. Diego

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    For longevity certainly SAF, Pep is probably the best of his generation now and will stay that way.
     
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  3. ToonArmy1892

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    When we twat the scouse ****s next week the world will be right again.
     
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  4. Bumps

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    Not good enough lol
    That doesn’t answer the question
    And Tbf you obviously don’t have to
    But who is the best
    No rational just who is goat
     
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  5. Bumps

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    Fwiw I think you will beat us <wah>
     
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  6. Diego

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    Until Pep has done 20 years at one club and built multiple teams it's not possible to compare <doh>

    SAF was the best of his generation and possibly all time but Pep stands alone in his generation now,
     
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  7. ToonArmy1892

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    Pep has gone to the top teams in each league, good manager but never had to build a team up to the top.

    Rafa > Pep.

    Winning the league 2 out of 3 seasons with Valencia was mad.
     
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  8. ToonArmy1892

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    Miley and Anderson are ahead of Longstaff, he isn't good enough.
     
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  9. ToonArmy1892

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    Mmm wrong forum again.
     
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  11. Bumps

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    I think he is good but I definitely subscribe to this not building a team viewpoint

    he didn’t even earn the right to be chequebook manager in my opinion like Jose did (who do me is up there in this generation easily)

    he inherited a team with two of the greatest players of all time in Xavi and Iniesta at a club which at the time snapped their fingers and players came running

    Pep then went to Treble Winning - all conquering Bayern and arguably took them backwards

    from there onto City and whilst he hasn’t spent 200mil on a player he has bought loads of 50-60 mil players

    one of the commentary teams mentioned it yesterday from reverse perspective saying how wonderful Pep is because he seems to make players good and they lose KDB and have Foden to bring in.

    Pep has the ability to make mistakes and just discard players - whereas other teams have to live and utilise their mistakes - Pep can just replace at ease then bin off the player.

    Foden is touted as one of the best English prospects since Gazza at City - has Pep helped him - yep but I imagine it’s like at grass roots.

    surrounded by the quality Pep is afforded from his owners how can you not improve - that’s why we have ETCs

    Pep for me is almost the greatest fantasy football manager ever as his team is pretty much that. He has been to 3 clubs with basically limitless funding. Can see him going to PSG tbh then retiring. Is he a clever man - yes - is he a very very good manager - yes
    Is he the greatest - not to me - no matter what he achieves at City.

    you say it’s not possible to compare but I think it is - take Fergie as the comparison. At this point in his career he had built Aberdeen up and broke up the dominance of the two Glasgow Clubs

    then moved South and built a utd squad which had broken the dominance of Liverpool - both mammoth tasks - has Pep done that at this point - no ?
    He continued a winning legacy at Barca, he arguably took Bayern backwards, and City weren’t exactly losers when he arrived - he just took them to the next level.

    to be clear it doesn’t bother me - other clubs just have to work harder and find ways to beat City - that’s now the game but I just think the debate over Pep and any other top managers is a simple one

    I think SAF miles better
    Brian Clough light years ahead
    I think there is an argument for Jose for me - you know I admire him

    ancellotti in modern day - this generation is better than Pep imho

    obviously we will never solve it because it’s impossible. I doubt Pep will lose any sleep over my opinion or you will for that matter lol <cheers>
     
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  12. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    So to sum up, you're bitter about Pep.

    Got ya.
     
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  13. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Still can't see beyond you lot as league winners tbh. Have you any players still being linked with moves?

    Think that's what wil **** us over, if we didn't sell anyone else then I think we'd be comfortably top 6 but I think at least 2/3 more will go so will then be down to replacements.
     
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    Leicester will piss it mate. They’ve come down and kept a lot of their squad together they’ve been spending 8 and 10 million on players. That blows the rest of the league out of the water. Pressure on though, if they don’t finish top 2 it will be an embarrassing failure.
     
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  15. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Yeah really everyone else is just playing for the one automatic promotion spot. Gonna be an interesting season though with lots of teams having the potential to take the other spot.

    Fancy Ipswich to maintain their good start and threaten the top 6. They remind me of us when we came up from league one.
     
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    Yeah, Ipswich will fall away a bit but definitely a top 8 side. Might very well make it to the top 6.

    I can see Carrick getting the boot from Boro in a few months. He failed in pressure games last season and was carried by players he’s now lost for this season.
     
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    The most embarrassing supporters in the world strike again. There’s something seriously amiss with these fcukers.


     
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    Loads... Souttar, Kristiansen, Soumare, Castagne and Daka are all being left out of either the whole matchday squad or not coming off the bench ... plus Maresca keeps saying he wants to bring in at least four more new faces before the window shuts - so writing looks on the wall for them ...

    .... definitely an emphasis on youth coming through too ... academy lads, Marcal-Madivadua, McAteer, Ben Nelson and Jacob Stolarcyk all having had minutes on the pitch ...

    ...loads of disruption / change, yet quietly getting the results whilst the performances are steadily improving game by game ...
     
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  20. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Yeah I've been keeping an eye out on their results after feeling they've lost a lot from the loanees. Wba and QPR in the next two and he'll need some decent points there you'd imagine.

    Be interesting to see how Leeds do too. They seem to have lost loads of players without bringing much money in and had a bad start too.

    I'll be interested to see where we are come early-mid October as September fixtures look tough. Great win yesterday though given lack of midfield options as don't think Plymouth will be pushovers at home at all.
     
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