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Women's World Cup

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  1. Drew

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    But isn't the point that that's because historically the men have had much more attention?

    The fact it is the most viewed event in Australia show in that country at least the money probably now needs to catch up. Granted, Australian male players probably aren't the biggest earners on the world stage, but it seems it'd be unfair now for the women to not be in the same conversation. They've done their bit this year.

    I think when you consider the obstacles put in place by men, the women's game is doing really well now. Its exciting.
     
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    you have to take into account world viewing figures and not just Australia
     
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  3. SydneyTiger14

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    Why do world viewing figures have an impact on Australian sponsors paying money for an Australian product watched by Australians? The conversation was around the flow on from this being the most watched event in Australia and how that should reflect more money for the Australian team.

    But on that subject, how have the figures been?
     
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  4. Drew

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    That's exactly why I said in Australia .
     
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  5. Deano's Volley

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    Oh I agree, I’m all for women getting the same money as men and it being even, it’s great how far it’s come. Like I said earlier was just pointing out the reasoning for the men getting more.
    Hopefully the women go on and win the World Cup now.
     
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  6. Deano's Volley

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    I’m on about the game in general, not Australian football. Australian football wages are probably equivalent to our conference league and the standard too. What about the game in general in the world, are women outselling the men’s shirts?
    Let me know the actual numbers for that.
     
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    I'm talking about the national team.

    Anyway, you agree they should be paid the same so I guess we're agreeing!
     
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  8. Deano's Volley

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    Right and what’s that got to do with the point of the World Cup giving more money to men than women? Do the overall shirt sales and overall viewing/sponsorship deals for the women’s World Cup bring in more money than the overall men’s World Cup? Because that’s the whole point of the point I made, not once did I mention the Australian woman’s national team on there own.
     
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    I thought you didn't want a tedious back and forth, particularly as we're agreeing that the national team should be paid more. :)
     
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  10. Deano's Volley

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    I don’t but when you were clearly wrong and arguing about a completely different thing to my original post I thought I’d correct you.
    Ok australia women deserve the same as men. Doesn’t apply to other parts of football though does it.
    Anyway, have a good day/night, hopefully city sign the mysterious player today and we also get a win vs Blackburn tomorrow.
     
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  11. SydneyTiger14

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    OK I was clearly wrong. :)
     
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  12. originallambrettaman

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    There's clearly a massive gulf between what the International women's game generates and what the men's game generates (US$570m for the current Women's World Cup and US$7.6b for the last Men's World Cup).

    The viewing figures for this World Cup have been fantastic (at least in Australia and England), but the women's game as a whole still has a massive issue, in that outside of the Euros and World Cup, barely anyone in England will actually watch a women's football match.
     
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    I do find it a bit funny when smug women talk about how big this World Cup has been and men supporting women's sport, but then when I ask them if they attend any league games in the women's code, to support it and help it grow, they give me a blank look.
     
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    In England, WSL teams that have the same name as men's teams, play at much smaller venues, so the women's game is not at the same level, but it might well grow post WWC
     
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    World viewing figures determine how much sponsors will pay for exposure
    The sponsors are international:
    Adidas
    Coca-Cola
    Wanda
    Hyundai Motors
    Kia
    Qatar Airways
    Qatar Energy
    Algorand
    Calm
    World Health Organization
    VISA
    Xero
    Budweiser
    Globant
    Unilever
    McDonald’s
    China Mengniu Dairy Company
    Roblox
    Hublot
    Booking.com

    They do have local "supporters" but the money involved is relatively small
     
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    You don't think those sponsors would be looking at the amount they paid for this WC as 'unders' given the crowds, product, and viewers?
     
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    I think the marketing and those asking for more personal payment are getting this wrong in trying to pick the elite male version as the comparative.

    By dint of it's name the Women's world Cup is different, as are the U21's. under 15's etc and it needs to stand or fall on its own merits.

    If the aim is to increase women's participation in football, then surely, rather than more prize money for the players, they should be campaigning for more funding to grass roots female teams.
     
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  18. Chazz Rheinhold

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    Ariel n mr Sheen are missing a trick
     
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  19. DMD

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    The shake n vac woman in an England kit. <ok>
     
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    Thought I’d Google to remind myself
    Put shake n cac in error

    in a whole other world now ….
     
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