Just a thought of wether games were thrown last season

You mean the top 230 ha ha LOL.

 

Don't think they were paid off though Sniffer, just that they knew if they underperformed we would be relegated and they would be able to leave because of the clauses in the contracts we gave them.

Unless of course along with your little black book of billionaires, you also have a little black book of private detectives for hire, I think you will struggle to find the proof you desire

 

Might have to send the men in black out to get the proof. Ha ha

 

It was reported awhile ago that gnonto had already agreed terms with everton so as long as this is correct gnonto must have been in touch and spoken to everton when he is under contract with Leeds , that is surely a Breach of contract ?

 

Of course it is but that’s the agents job. They all do it

 

But the agent then has to get gnonto to agree to it and with gnonto been under contract he is not allowed to so with breach of contract leeds have the right to not pay him any wages until he agrees not only to play for leeds but to put 100% effort in or he is to be left out again and not paid yes ?

 

Correct but in real life fantasy stuff. He’ll be sold, his former club will pocket a lump of it and the Leeds board will save face a bit by making the move
As difficult as possible

 

Whilst I agree with the sentiment, probably something like 99% of all transfer deals are done this way.

Buying club talks to agent, agent tells player, player agrees to offer, then buying club makes offer to players club.

You only have to look at the various news reports this summer, where it says that player X has agreed personal terms and is just awaiting a transfer offer to be made.

As Eire said, it happens all the time within football, or as Tom Jones would say "it's not unusual"

 

That doesn’t achieve anything. All we could do realistically is sack him (cancel his contract) then he can join anyone for free (unless we can still hold his registration to play. I’d need Aski for that kind of detail).

 

There are rules that say if a player has his contract terminated for breach of contract, then FIFA can sanction the player from appearing in any competitive match for 4 months and that they can order compensation be paid to the club. However that sanction only applies after FIFA have made a decision, it doesnt say what happens in the meantime.

In 2018 Sunderland said that they would not release a player registration unless he agreed a negotiated settlement that upon him finding a new club, Sunderland would be paid £3.5m. That would suggest you could short term pending a decision from FIFA, if you have been unable to reach an agreement over compensation with the player.

That's just my interpretation though, as I can't find anything definitive one way or the other

 

My point is though that gnonto cannot agree personal terms as he is contracted to leeds united and is therefore in breach of contract for agreeing to personal terms , I would not pay him and put him in reserves till he realizes he is losing money by his own actions this will also make him more hungry to put 100% in, its no good just putting him into the side if he plays useless and does not try , we might as well have a different player in there who will work his socks off for leeds, sod gnonto !

 

It would be good if we hold onto him and leeds get promoted this season then in summer when he realizes leeds are a premier league team , we say he is not good enough for leeds and we then sell him for 30m.

 

There are a few things leeds can do , In the end gnonto knows that a club will only come in for him if he shows his skill on the pitch so putting him in reserves for now until he realizes this is ok , and Leeds don't need to pay him which will get his hunger back.

 

I do agree with your first paragraph and I think that is what they did , it just shows how crap the contract organiser was and also the hierachi such as Angus kanear what a joke he is not to see what would happen if leeds got relegated and players underperformed on purpose , also 49ers must have known which is surprising that they did not do anything , surely now leeds must know how to do a contract so a player cannot do this again.

 

I was replying to LoL's specific question though Sniffer. I understand the point you are making. I think most agree that yes he shouldn't be speaking to other clubs without permission, whilst also acknowledging that within football it happens very regularly.

However all that would do is make Gnonto stop turning up at all. If you aren't going to pay him, then there is no point him turning up to train with the reserves. He may as well go back and live in Italy and not be paid by the club, than stay here and not be paid. Even if he is in there wrong, the club still have to follow UK employment laws. Thus if he turns up, says he wants to train and make himself available for selection, and the club make him train and play for the reserves, then they will still have to pay him

 

Why did they not put that In the contract then they could of just followed it to the contract

 

I think it needs investigating about leeds players throwing games last season , then benefiting from it through exit clauses , also Angus Kinnear needs sacking.

 

And it was those players that got us into that hole.

 

Because it would be against UK employment law, and if we tried to do what you suggest then he would have had a case to leave the club for nothing on the grounds of discrimination.

Doesn't matter if we agree with it or not, that would be the law.

Anyways doesn't matter now as the issue appears to have been resolved from the clubs point of view

 

He did say he did not want to play for leeds though so leeds have every right to withhold his wages , its now resolves but he should still be investigated if he threw games or was bribed to