Summer window

How would you know why our wage bill is?

 

As it should be given we were in League 1 15 months ago. Am starting to think that finishing 6th last season was the worst thing that could have happened to us. Supporter expectations have gone through the roof.
Finishing 12th would have been a successful season. Now we have a division that has 7 or 8 teams with massive budgets and people expecting us to compete.

 

As I’ve mentioned a few times my only gripe is that our wage bill is so low yet we’re hearing reports of moving players on to “free up wages”.

How can a club the size of Sunderland who have 35k season card sales plus everything that comes with that and an owner who’s hardly short of a few quid need to free up wages when our wage bill is lower than 2 out of the 3 promoted teams amongst another 15/16 teams in the championship?

I get we should move players on because we don’t want a bloated squad and the wages can be distributed better but I just can’t get my head around a club spending considerably less on wages than clubs who generate much less in revenue when our aim is promotion within 5 years, of which we’re into the 3rd year (as quoted by KLD).

Not trying to be THAT miserable teat but am I missing something?

 

i am convinced they either have not heard about or understood what FFP is, we are certainly not one of the big clubs so there is no way we would be 'let off' without punishment, but trying to tell these people is a waste of time.

 

You base that on the capology website don't you?

 

It’s not though, it’s all relevant. Finishing 6th last season was a huge plus and I’d snap your hand off for 6th again but the worst thing you can do in football is stand still.

Sheff wed and Ipswich have came up and have wage bills considerably higher than ours if you believe the data that’s out there. I’m not asking for us to spend like Leicester but we should absolutely not be getting outspent on wages by clubs like Huddersfield, Sheff Wed, Birmingham (who were in the **** just 18 months ago).

 

I agree, I think we will finish lower than we did last season but we will still build and be OK. 7-12 position imo, in a very tough division this season.

 

We have a winner

 

Ffp rules is a 39 million loss over a 3 year period.

Theoretically with amortisation you could spend £50 million now on 5 players with 5 year deals, the loss is spread over their contract period, so £10 million a year loss, sell a Clarke or ballard next summer for £20 million and that profit hits the account in full when you sell so would pretty much balance it out, over the 3 years with selling and spending

 

It been published numerous times recently across different sports data analysts.

Just like transfer fees, wages are well documented because agents are pushing for better deals and footballer contracts aren’t exactly the most confidential. If numerous analysts put our wage bill around £7m then that’s what it is give it or take even half a million quid.

 

Because Sheff Wed are spending ridiculous amounts, and the rest have established championship squads as they have been here for years. We clearly aren’t offering bad wages as people like Ballard wouldn’t have signed a new deal if we were. Also stuff like squad harmony would take a massive hit if we start bringing in players on huge wages compared to the existing squad. We’ll get there, all in good time.

 

Our wages in the last accounts where 16 million. Assuming the 189 admin staff account for £5 million of that (huge guess) that puts out players wage bill at £11 million

 

pointless telling me, i am not spending money on players...explain it to them thinking KLD should just empty his bank account to get players in.

 

Of course he shouldn't, I was using a theoretical example of where you could spend a lot and not be in ffp trouble

 

we really need some good news dont we hopefully we can get some

 

The rumours of the Ukrainian are getting stronger. Maybe he's here already?

 

I reckon it's done. Don't think they would have risked Hemir tonight. Need someone with flightradar to check the airport.

 

Then someone at the airport to double check

 

i agree, there has to be some 'wiggle room' in there but until we get to know the full wages/transfer fees/agent rip off wages/etc then we the supporters can not really say a lot...just like everyone else i would love to see a bit more movement, players coming in rather than 'chosen to go elsewhere' or 'talks have broken down'.

i just do not understand why many fees now (apart from the big money at the top) are undisclosed, i do not wish to know the wages as that is a personal thing between the player and the club but transfer fees were always disclosed at one point.

 

Seems to be the way now for most transfers unless they are big ones, mind you even those are manipulated.

Wasn't it White-Gibbs that went last summer from the championship for a reported £45 million?

It was actually £22 and the rest in add ons, but sky etc ran with the headline of £45 million