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Jimmy Squarefoot said:
Don’t get me wrong - landing caicedo is a long shot.

but right now - we ‘won’ the auction meaning we have the highest AGREED bid. If Chelsea don’t match that, or if we withdraw our bid, caicedo isn’t moving there
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Well thats up to Brighton, not you.

All of this is moot, because none of you know whether Caicedo is REFUSING to go to Liverpool, or if he would just PREFER to go to Chelsea.
Like if Chelsea dropped out now, would he say **** it and stay at Brighton, or go to Liverpool?
He has a contract so Brighton cannot make him leave against his will. My feeling is he wants Chelsea but will take Liverpool, and Liverpool know this, and thats why they haven't withdrawn their bid.
Do Chelsea still want him now? Because if so WTF haven't we upped our bid?
 
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Mark Blow said:
That’s irrelevant as Brighton don’t have to accept Chelsea’s lower bid.
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And, for that matter, Chelsea don't have to stand by their offer if and when - hopefully soon - we walk away, and can go back again with a lower offer.
 
Diego said:
You offer is pointless, he will not move to you.
You could double the offer tomorrow and it still wouldn't make any difference, if a club place an offer that is acceptable to both the player and his club he will go there, even if it's half of what you offered.
You are out of it and any proposed dealings you have had so far are irrelevant.
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He will move if there is no other offer on the table. The kid just wants to move.

You’re getting confused with Caicedo preferring a move to Chelsea Vs him being disgusted with LFC and hating the club and never wanting to come
 
Jimmy Squarefoot said:
Don’t get me wrong - landing caicedo is a long shot.

but right now - we ‘won’ the auction meaning we have the highest AGREED bid. If Chelsea don’t match that, or if we withdraw our bid, caicedo isn’t moving there
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He's a human bieng not an item at an auction. His club were willing to accept the money you offered but he wasn't willing to make the move so you are out of it.
 
Bodinki said:
Well thats up to Brighton, not you.

All of this is moot, because none of you know whether Caicedo is REFUSING to go to Liverpool, or if he would just PREFER to go to Chelsea.
Like if Chelsea dropped out now, would he say **** it and stay at Brighton, or go to Liverpool?
He has a contract so Brighton cannot make him leave against his will. My feeling is he wants Chelsea but will take Liverpool, and Liverpool know this, and thats why they haven't withdrawn their bid.
Do Chelsea still want him now? Because if so WTF haven't we upped our bid?
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thank you for better articulating what I’m trying to say
 
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Jimmy Squarefoot said:
You’re getting confused with Caicedo preferring a move to Chelsea Vs him being disgusted with LFC and hating the club and never wanting to come
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Yes, like I said, no one knows whether he is preferring Chelsea, or totally snubbing Liverpool 100%.
I dont see why he would.
 
Diego said:
Fatal amature error from both clubs.
The player is not a slave or commodity so should be part of the process.
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Well, it is. Strictly speaking, the buying club shouldn't talk to the player until the selling club grants permission to do so.

Obviously, a quick check to make sure the player would be interested wouldn't go amiss but considering he reportedly got on a chopper before deciding he only wanted to go to Chelsea suggests he may have considered joining a Liverpool before taking that action.
 
Diego said:
Mate he has refused to come to you so your bid is null and void.
If they want to sell him they will have to accept the best bid they can get from a club he will go to, Failing that just keep him.
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You spoke to him? Amazing didn’t realise you were that close friends with him.
 
Bodinki said:
Well thats up to Brighton, not you.

All of this is moot, because none of you know whether Caicedo is REFUSING to go to Liverpool, or if he would just PREFER to go to Chelsea.
Like if Chelsea dropped out now, would he say **** it and stay at Brighton, or go to Liverpool?
He has a contract so Brighton cannot make him leave against his will. My feeling is he wants Chelsea but will take Liverpool, and Liverpool know this, and thats why they haven't withdrawn their bid.
Do Chelsea still want him now? Because if so WTF haven't we upped our bid?
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Why would you up your bid if he is refusing to go to Liverpool?
It now comes down to how much Brighton want to mover him out or make money from him.
 
Evil Roy Slade said:
But the player holds the aces (or his agents do). At the end of the day, as and when Liverpool do withdraw their offer (please God soon - this is excruciating) it's up to brighten whether they sell or not, but now Chelsea hold some aces too - he only wants to play for them, he said so. So he's only going to one bidder, and that bidder knows that if Brighton don't accept their bid that they're sitting on a valueless ornament - or a £100m asset if they sell to Brighton.

The bottom line is that we didn't do due diligence with the player and his agent. We utterly ****ed up. Suck it up. As you infer, Chelsea could still drop back down to their £80m offer now and still be in the driving seat. We need to walk away now - we're somehow becoming more of a laughing stock by the hour, if not the minute.
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Brighton won’t sell to Chelsea for a penny less than £111m
 
Diego said:
Why would you up your bid if he is refusing to go to Liverpool?
It now comes down to how much Brighton want to mover him out or make money from him.
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lol bless you’re really not getting it. You’re making is sound that caicedo would not come to LFC. He has a preference for Chelsea - meaning if they don’t put in a suitable bid, then he’ll join LFC.

if Chelsea up their bid, then Brighton are likely to accept it and therefore he will join there

the question is How long will Brighton wait for Chelsea to bid …
 
Bodinki said:
Well thats up to Brighton, not you.

All of this is moot, because none of you know whether Caicedo is REFUSING to go to Liverpool, or if he would just PREFER to go to Chelsea.
Like if Chelsea dropped out now, would he say **** it and stay at Brighton, or go to Liverpool?
He has a contract so Brighton cannot make him leave against his will. My feeling is he wants Chelsea but will take Liverpool, and Liverpool know this, and thats why they haven't withdrawn their bid.
Do Chelsea still want him now? Because if so WTF haven't we upped our bid?
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God, I hope you're wrong. This whole episode is humiliating enough without having our record transfer fee player with us only because his dream move fell through. I think Liverpool are only hanging on in a mixture of forlorn hopelessness and twisted spite. And now we've lost Lavia too. Just cannot believe we put a bid in of that size without checking the player and his agents out. Amateur hour.
 
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Diego said:
About as close as your are mate so can only go off what main stream are saying.
Do you have a sevret better source?
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Is your main source Fabriano Romano? A guy that is well known to have been wrong on more than one occasion when it comes to caicedo and Brighton… ‘here we go to arsenal’. He’s a mouth piece for the agents, he knows about as much as anyone else.

Given caicedo hasn’t actually said anything, then the only person that knows if he would be willing to move is himself and not what a journalist who doesnt actually have anything riding on being accurate says.

Like bod says, no one knows if he doesn’t want to go to lfc, or would just prefer chelsea because of the chats they’ve had with his agent. If he really doesn’t want to go to lfc then he won’t go. Everyone will soon find out and then chelsea will prob be given chance to match the bid (or pay extra for being ****s) and prove they do want him. If they don’t do that, then he’ll stay at Brighton.
 
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