At NO point would I or did I say that Kane wasn't, or isn't, a great player. That would be absolutely foolish. He is arguably the greatest player Spurs have ever produced. I wish he was staying. I wish Levy built a better team around him, of course. Just spare me with the Kane can do no wrong bollocks. He wasn't Jesus. He wasn't flawless. This entire, "we were lucky to have him, and should hang our heads'' screams of inferiority complex. The same crap that Neville and their ilk use to suggest that only a team as Holy as Man United deserve such players in England. The same mentality that makes journalists feel like it's ok to walk into a press conference with a shirt bearing our players name on it. WTF was that?!? (That was also a direct disrespect to Ange, do you think they'd have tried that with Conte or Jose?) Let's throw that crap straight in the bin where it belongs. This habit of giving Kane all the praise when we win and he scores (Recent Man City win. Listen to how the pundits called it a "Kane show", as if he did anything close to what Bale did in the San Siro as far as solo performance. It was a complete team effort.), but giving the team aside from Kane, the criticism when we lose and he doesn't perform, is absolute crap. ("The team should have made more chances for Kane"). Pochettino was guilty of seeing him as the messiah in the CL final when he should have played the in-form players, LUCAS, and used Kane as a sub at best, Kane should have insisted this happen if he knew he wasn't in top form or unfit.
No one said he was flawless but this nonsense of trying to downplay and find the faults in one of, if not our best ever player is just madness. Especially as it wasn’t so long agony you specifically were writing essays on why Ndombele should be given yet another chance, and now you’re trying to downplay Kane. No, but when Spurs fans act like Kane was the only one that didn’t turn up in certain games and forget the fact there were 10 other players on the pitch who were just as poor if not worse, I’m not gonna lambast a guy who’s usually so brilliant.
Yeah but whoever they are won’t be joining us All seriousness I think Gift Orban is likely to be the target. Insane scoring record for a young striker but obviously it’ll be a huge step up to the Prem if we do sign him. It sounds like the plan is to have Richarlison lead the line initially and then potentially Orban plus Veliz who we just signed battle it out to displace him.
I just can’t fathom why there’s so much focus on him not turning up in cup finals etc. it’s a point that always seems to rear it’s ugly head, especially as the bloke scored 344 goals in 450ish games for us and was excellent in 95% of them.
Imagine if levy asks for more money whilst Kane is waiting at wagamamas, only for Bayern to say “no”, and Levy to say “ok no deal”.
It’s happened before with other class players for us. I think some just want to find a faults in players to then pretend not to be too bothered when they leave. Son gets similar comments about not turning up in finals, Eriksen got criticised because he couldn’t tackle or wasn’t strong enough... might as well moan that Lloris never scored hattricks.
I think Poker Games is the right term. Levy basically bluffing to make it look like he tried stopping the deal. I think once we announce the departure we’ll get the whole “the club tried everything to keep him” line. Could’ve just had your phone on silent for that, pal.
All the points raised are very valid, it just hurts to see the great man go. No disrespect to Bayern, who are a great club but I just feel Harry could have done so much better and it just seems like a very odd choice to me. I suspect that there is a bit more to this than meets the eye and no doubt in 10 - 15 years there will be some interview where all the details come out! As I'm getting on a bit now I've seen some great players depart, Gazza in particular broke my heart, but the club survived and I still walk around in club colours even though I emigrated to the East Midlands 20 odd years ago!
Huh!? There is no Kane downplaying happening. I have NEVER said Kane was the only one who didn't turn up. It's you who claimed that he is the only one who did, like the entire other 10 players failed him. If Kane has a bad game, and I say it, why does this mean I am downplaying his contribution? If the entire team doesn't perform, why should Kane be free from criticism? If the entire team plays well why should Kane get all the praise? What I said or didn't say about N'dombele is irrelevant. A cheap attempt at distraction. Stick to the topic.
We’d never heard of Veliz until about 5 days ago! . It was such a quick signing, once the reports came out he was done within about 24-48 hours. Orban though is getting a lot of attention, basically moving like a Nigerian Haaland at the moment with his strike rate, 44 goals in 49 games so far between two different clubs.
I think this is more relevant to these latter years. A guy of kanes quality would have moved years ago to a club more likely to challenge for trophies. It's a testament to his loyalty that he's even stayed at spurs for so long (arguably you were in 2016 - 2018). The fact he's stayed another 5 years and not gone to a club to win and get paid big bucks (not that he's on a pittance now) is because he genuinely love spurs and thought he could win things at spurs. You were lucky in the sense he's stayed so long rather than ****ed off No one man can bring trophies to a club (bar maybe maradona) but football has changed where you need a couple of super stars but you can't have any passengers in your side. As for anyone who criticises his decision to win some "poxy guaranteed medals". I don't know any competitor who doesn't want to win. Just look at how fans react when they win anything (maybe not city with the minor cups), kane literally hasn't won anything and i'm sure he'd love to grab a few even if that team is the german psg. It's a recognised powerful league and he also gets more opportunities at the CL.
Only cause lack of medals is given as his reason to go. Like the other players, he bears some responsibility for this.
You’re literally trying to find faults in one of the truly elite players of our club. Why? Why does Kane not scoring in finals come to the forefront of your mind instead of the ridiculous amount of games he’s saved this club’s arse and produced countless amounts of magic? What possesses a fan to want to see the bad in a fantastic player? What you said about Ndombele just shows how confusing you are that you wanna defend the awful and criticise the great.
So it's 'ugly' when it's said about Kane, but not ugly when it's said about Spurs after the same matches? Or every day when we are told Spurs are not a big club, or will never win anything? There isn't much focus on this when it comes to Kane. That is the point. With other players there is, because players that are considered 'elite' are often the ones who turn up in finals or big, high stake, games. Bale, Lucas, Son have all done it. Kane, not so much for club or country. Even other teams players, Messi, Ronaldo, Drogba, Benzema, big game players. By contrast, there is lots of focus on Spurs not being a 'big game' club, i.e. Spurs don't win nuffink.
No one has said kane isn't a world class player but 2 goals and no assists in 10 semi final matches and 4 finals is not a good record. Pointing this out is not out of line imho
So, wanting any player to improve or be better for the team is wanting to see the bad in a fantastic player? I'm done talking to you about this. Kane is Magic. Faultless. The sun shines out of his arse. Have a good day sir.
