You’ve already made your mind up, Labour will announce their policies as the GE gets closer, no opposition party would announce them this early as things will change between now and then, imagine if they’d made them public before Truss was let loose with the economy, they’d have to redo them all again now, and several times more between now and the next election. Imagine if they did that you’d only call them flip floppers.
Politics is like joined up writing! it has a certain flow albeit an erratic one. When for about 8 years I voted Labour I thought that it was utopia and was sucked in by the those first few years ... at the time mortgage rates were fairly high but everything else was being designed to suck people in for the next 4 years ... hind sight that amazing thing really does tell the truth most of the time unless you [ .gov ] have to twist it At 56 you have seen the last 40 years worth of politics the 1983 election when Maggie took the reins for the second time. And got her title the iron lady ... . 1997 i VOTED Labour on reflection, wouldnt have made much difference but the reasons were as I learned/ appreciated were designed to draw in the gullible all 13m of us [ likely 5m really that voted differently to last election ] OIL was the key ... we all benefitted for a few years whilst labour wasted the profits .. then the penny dropped ....... a lot never voted I didnt 2005 was the demise of the robust UK SHATTERED BY REALLY REALLY BAD MANAGEMENT ........ 2010 was the realization and the need for a new leaf ... Austerity, the .gov HAD THE BALLS to do something to return us to greatness and they succeeded .. however COVID WAS THE SECRET enemy and destroyed that dream .................. That is basically your 40 years of politics. And yes Liz Truss had an idea to do something which failed but unfortunately was under the influence of the 7 month of the Russian invasion and finances and the world finances were in turmoil ... she took the heat ... Rishi inherited the dying embers .. KS cashed in points gathering .. SNP HAD NO CONCERNS ON THE UK OTHER THAN SCOTLAND ... and the liberals were a spent force of just a handful! BELIEVE IT OR NOT from 1997 to now is a continuos sequence of events each one following the need to try to put right the errors of those wasteful years of oil revenue...............
Angelic .... leaving aside the years from 2019 to date "what were the mistakes" from 2010 to 31st DECEMBER 2018 ? And what were on 31st December 2018 anything that could / should have been done to put us in a different position than we were in on 31st December 2018!.....?
I will wait to be impressed then But I honestly don’t think they have any new or better ideas What will be interesting to see is whether the Home Office and Civil Service plus the lawyers constantly undermining the British people will suddenly want to make things better under them
If you truly believe before COVID everything was hunky dory, you are deluded. We were in a mess, If things were that good why were the NHS waiting lists so long, Ambulances queuing at hospitals, and the NHS itself so ill prepared and lacking in resilience. The police service was so under manned even the Torries admitted we needed to recruit another 20,000 police officers , after they had got rid of, wait for it, 20,000 police officers since they came into power. They now claim they’ve increased the police numbers by 20,000 , I could go on.
Surely when they become 67 most of them would have been here many years paying their taxes like the rest of us . Another way to look at it is, the more people working here and paying taxes the better. So once they’ve been processed and allowed to work and pay taxes the better. The true cost is even more than £6m per day, it’s also the lost taxes of these extra potential workers .
The answer to the OP question “Why are we always broke & poor” is very simple. Too much of the country’s wealth is in the hands of an ever decreasing number of people. Which means There’s less and less available for the rest of us.
I am not even going to read beyond this as you have been on the same vibe since forever .. you dont seem to be able to see through the smoke to see the real picture
At last… someone in the public forum who has said it as, I think, most ordinary people think!! And he is now being accused of “stoking up” hate!!
And as has been pointed out, we waste tens of billions annually on things we shouldn't need to be spending taxpayers money on at all such as proving aid to the likes of India and China, policing the idiots from Just Stop Oil and co, and we are spending much more on certain things than we should be such as identifying people who are cheating the benefits system and the obscene and ever increasing costs of dealing with illegal immigration. Reign all those costs in and I'm sure any Government could find better ways to waste it all again such as on white elephants such as HS2
It'll keep the left screaming for weeks But all the time when you've got people like this woman councillor below going against the grain there will continue to be major issues and outrage. Immigration lawyer Irim Ali, who sits on Newcastle City Council, said she would assist anyone in the country who was "illegal", "without a valid visa" or had "overstayed" make their case to the Home Office Ms Ali, who is a cabinet member on the Labour-run council, has now deleted the video and a party source said she had been spoken to. She should be struck off immediately, tried and jailed.
Yours is a valid point, it doesn’t get away from the fact though that the bulk of the wealth in this country is in the hands of a very small minority. You aren’t one of them so why defend them.
I'm not defending them. Personally I'd love to have millions of pounds, and a large country estate, but it's unlikely to happen, and I can't change history or privilege that some are born into, and nor do I want to. So what would you do ? Confiscate all the inherited wealth and lands of those lucky enough to have it and redistribute it amongst the rest of us ?
whats the point of working if you dont suceed in getting a lifestyle you want /like it is basically evolution! What is the point of say football ..... A GROUP from top down to temporary game staff get together to be top of the premiership and win things ... without there being a top to aim at it loses the edge and just becomes a kick about.... bit like all the lazy wasters and expectant hands out for freebies! The greatest % of this population are hypocrites they want more money to more things/ buy things/go on holiday /etc etc but knock those who have achieved from whatever source their wealth comes from
Personally I have no problem with people earning a lot of money. I'm all for rewarding hard work and innovation. What cannot be ignored however is the social responsibilities that we ALL, regardless of wealth, colour, religion, sexual orientation etc, towards keeping our society healthy, educated and safe. I'm fortunate enough to be earning enough that puts me in the 40% tax bracket. Of course I'd love to pay less tax - everyone would - but it's morally correct that the people earning more pay a bit more tax, simply because they can afford it. Most people - even those on the higher rate - accept this. All I ask in return is that my taxes are used wisely for the benefit of society and for the collective good of the country. What really boils my piss are the super-rich leaches and parasites who hide all their £billions in offshore accounts in places like the Cayman Islands and avoid paying ANY tax. Unfortunately many of these 'people' for want of a better word are either politicians (like Rees-Mogg for example), or the spouses of politicians (like non-dom Mrs Sunak) - the people making the rules. Add to this list the likes of Amazon and Google - who pay next to nothing, whilst Joe Bloggs the local baker, or James the local pub landlord are taxed to fk and can barely afford to stay in business. I'd be quite happy if the revolution redistributed some of THOSE people's currently untaxed wealth to hospitals, care homes, education or other public services that are at breaking point.
The uncomfortable truth is that most politicians are corrupt, and that all of us will pay as little tax as is necessary, it's human nature. Whether these politicians are ever exposed or brought to account is another matter, but unless they are breaking the law there isn't a lot that can be done unless you introduce new legislation banning the use of offshore bank accounts around the world. If you want a look at corruption close to home, what's coming out about the SNP and Herr Sturgeon spending public money that was coming from Westminster is a good one. Almost £10,000 of taxpayers’ money was spent on luxury VIP travel services for Nicola Sturgeon, new figures have shown. The costs were among more than £14 million of spending by Scottish civil servants on credit cards, which also included nail polish, yoga classes and a driving theory test for a staff member. Civil servants also purchased multiple copies of a book collection of Ms Sturgeon’s speeches with public funds. Back in the early 70's, (under Harold Wilson?) English pop and rock stars were paying something like 90% or more in Income tax which is why the likes of the Rolling Stones quit the UK for a few years in order to save themselves from basically working for nothing. We do all need to contribute of course, but still think we are paying tens of billions on things that could be brought under far better control. I'm with you all the way in terms of getting Google, Amazon, the Banks, especially after recent events, and the likes of the energy companies paying their way and way more on top. I also think the Civil Service could be shorn of a good few thousand people and their huge salaries and pensions. It's not like they're being of much benefit to us are they ? Reduce the size of the state, lower our tax burden and let people spend their money and help boost the economy.
it was tax [ not income tax, a mixture of tax's but know what you mean it was a lot of dosh! ] based on earnings a bygone age which evolved to the systems in place now off shore / how they get paid etc etc etc The pension system did get changed for newbies but the old system is still being used for others till they all die off. Talking of pensions a few of my slightly younger mates just retiring are on almost £100 pm than me! due to the pension change a few years ago... my wife pro rata is on the same!
The pension schemes being offered to todays young workers are contribution-based and very poor compared to the Final Salary schemes we enjoyed. Added to that you can’t claim the state pension until 67 (for me) and the wife couldn’t claim hers until 66 (it used to be 60 for women). I don’t think my kids will have a retirement.
