Outsourcing is really an admission of bad management in many cases. There are situations where it makes financial sense but outsourcing to countries with cheaper labour is often false economy. Customer service drops, valued employees get pissed off etc. I knew of one company that used to spend about £5m a year on outsourcing IT programming to India because their daily rate was so much cheaper. However, this meant that specs had to be made completely idiot proof and pissed off valuable designers who were used to specifying at a higher level and giving programmers more job interest and helping them to develop. In house programmers then got even more pissed off because not only was their job made less interesting but when the work came back the quality was not so good and time had to be spent correcting the work. Getting rid of the outsourcing saved £5m pa, improved morale and increased productivity and staff retention. Economies can be made by outsourcing activities that are common across companies/industries but why go abroad for that?
This is true and I blame the kids. Back in the golden age of the British Empire we used to send kids down the coal mines, sweeping the chinmeys etc and for pratically **** all money. Little ****s want education and proper paid jobs or benefits these days.
Cost cannot be the only deciding factor though. Yes, Indian or Chinese workers will save you on salaries but what about the costs associated with the countless mistakes they make and the lost time correcting everything they do? Not to mention if your business is technical support and your customers leave because every time they call with a problem they spend an hour on the phone without fixing the problem (I'm thinking of BT here)
the lack of jobs has increased levels of education which has made a degree worth less than it used to My point isnt about actual slave labour. There are many employers who took on 16 year olds straight out of school as the pay was less so they could, for example, employ 2 on £2.50 an hour. The minimum wage meant only taking on 1 for some firms and 0 for others. who does that help?
****ing hell, you sound like an 80 year old Daily Telegraph reader. This country is far from perfect but if you want to know what it's like to live in a toilet (literally) try living in a slum in Brazil or Africa.
I agree but what else bar cost would it benefit any company? Hopefully the second rate service encourages the pissed off customer to take their business elsewhere, that's the only solution. I changed my bank and my telecom/broadband provider last year because everytime I picked up the phone the Indian person couldn't understand a ****ing thing I said turning what should be a 2min call into half hour. You could argue that my strong West Country accent didn't help and the Indian chap/women spoke better English than me, but that's not the point.
maybe its work ethic initially consider the scenario British business tycoon has company that goes tits up, everybody suffers except him as he gives himself a huge bonus and becomes a labour peer japanese business tycoon has company that goes tits up......kills himself
Ron We have sent one of our more senior engineers over to head the new office and he's pulling his hair out at the complete lack of quality. One of the traits they need to have is to speak good English, and he told us about one interview he was doing. Interviewer - "Do you speak English?" Indian - "Yes" Interviewer - "Can you understand everything I say?" Indian - "Yes" Interviewer - "Did you suck your mothers cock last night?" Indian - "Yes" He done a few more questions like that before telling him the interview was over and he would hear back within 2 weeks. Dunno if he got the job....
One of my sons is in India at the moment. I'm hoping to hear back about him getting a new job soon. Hopefully, he'll tell me the next time he's sucking my cock.
bad economic situations lead to EVEN higher unemployment bottom line for business is the profit. If £5 an hour gets you 2 workers its all good If $4.50 gets you one so 2 would be £9 that eats into your profit margin and makes you less competitive answer employ 1 and make him/her work harder
What about when that one worker is over stressed and has to take time off sick? I am struggling to see how a minimum wage contributes to unemployment.
one of us doesnt If you look at the number of SME (small and medium enterprises) that have cut back on recruitment numbers as a result of the minimum wage you would see it too As i have mentioned before I worked in regeneration and the figures are startling in some cases. However as a vote winner you cant show the other side Its like the kids working in India. many are anti this and some organisations work hard at eradicating this practice. Only problem is when succeeding they dont show you the scale of poverty that this 'kind hearted' action leads to. Some of these kids support whole families, now they cannot. ask the kids what they would rather have, work 12 hours a day or say family members starving Not saying kids working is right by the way
there is always a'what if' to all arguments when speaking hypothetically sam let me give you a real example. A friend of mines girlfreind worked for a firm for 10 odd years. She was all for womens lib/rights etc. The firm made cut backs, sacked her boss, sent her on courses and she now does part of her old job and part of her bosses job for less money than him but a bit more than her old salary yes she is stressed at times etc, but she took it and didnt grumble once
I can't be bothered getting into another tiresome argument with you on yet another subject in which you seem to be a expert in. Let's just say the minimum wage has its plusses and minuses which vary from country to country, company to company.
I never said it doesnt have certain benefits. For someone with no qualifications/experience etc i am sure it has been useful I was talking long term impacts
