Rangers v Celtic

Everyone else is saying, aye, right ye are.

Whilst Celtic are clutching at straws, know they are and have tried everything to stop the class action from even happening.

"We won't get a fair hearing Guvnor because we have lost the evidence to prove we are a separate entity"

"Aye, right ye are" said the judge.

 

I must be misremembering . however, I’m not just talking about Celtic and rangers . It’s all scottish teams . They perform poorly in European competitions due to not being ‘up to speed’

Scandinavian teams outperform them.

the other 2 points I made are valid.

Scotch football has no direction and is ultimately one of the most tinpot leagues in Europe.

Celtic (and rangers if they make it through ) will undoubtedly be humiliated in the Champions League.

 

I agree , small minded backwards thinking , bowling club mentality has killed Scottish football .

Had to remove part of your point as both Celtic and Rangers are culpable for the years of neglect and lack of forward vision along with the parochial nature of those who run the competitions (SFA, SPL/SPFL).

 

Basic stuff you'd expect from the top lawyer in Scotland

 

Sure but this is about moving the date of the league to compete in Europe.

Would 7 weeks on non competitive football have helped the huns in Seville?

I'd suggest not

 

I said July start , whenever the cup group stages kick off. So , approx 2/3 weeks early.

All clubs in qualifiers would benefit .

 

Are you having a laugh?

The reason the "Premier league" was conceived in the first place was to squeeze as much money as possible out of the massive support of Rangers and Celtic. It gave every other team at least 4 maximum attendances per season.

Pure self interest.

As I said, they have had multiple chances to change that but have always went for the status quo.

Over the last 2 seasons we have seen clubs limit the tickets they sell to the away OF support so maybe they are finally seeing the light.

Doubt it though.

 

Rangers were in a European final 18 months ago.

When was the last time a Scandinavian team were in a European final?

 

Freak occurrence .

 

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Who benefited from a limited voting structure ie 11/12 , now 10/12?

celtic and rangers don’t want change whilst they have a stranglehold on the trophies .

 

Two European finals in 15 years!

How many Scandinavian teams have been in European finals in the last 15 years?

 

We won't get by Servette.

 

How do Celtic and Rangers benefit from being in a league where the rest of the teams can vote together to make sure the league stays the same?

 

You can’t be serious ? Celtic and rangers don’t have the will to make any change to league set up . Why would they , it heavily benefits them to the detriment of the rest .

4 old firm games suits them
2 horse race suits them
Easier entry to Europe suits them

celtic and rangers devised the voting rules to suit them

 

How does a weak SPFL give the old firm an easier entry to Europe. Entry to Europe is based on coefficient points. Scottish teams getting papped out of Europe makes it harder for the OF to get into Europe. It's Rangers reintroduction into Europe in the last few years that has pushed Scottish coefficient points to where it now.

It's pretty much always been a 2 horse race since the SPL teams decided that milking the OF fans was preferable to the betterment of Scottish football as a whole. There was a wee blip in the 80s that was down to two extraordinary managers being able to turn a pigs ear into a pearl earing.

When it became a one horse race the the SFL sold their souls to the devil for the promise of scraps from the top table when they were in the best position they had ever been owning Rangers TV rights.

Now we have the SPFL

And so it goes.

 

Strangle competition then only 2 teams challenge for league

league winners get decent chance of CL or EL

rinse and repeat

celtic and rangers don’t care about rest of teams and benefit from the 11/1 voting rights they devised

The whole of jock football is a joke

how many pro clubs ? 42

small minded and parochial

Both Celtic and rangers could force real change if they really wanted to

but they don’t

 

The ***** apologist ****tah Mandy is still at it I see

Big jock would be proud.

 

I remember on here years ago when Celtic did well and got to the group stages saying naively that it was good for the coefficient and Scottish football on the whole, no way did any Rangers see that, just saying.

 

Smelltic are Oirish wannabes. And not even the first in Scotchland, Hibernian were the original fenian fake Oirish club but at least they didn't go down the *****phile route unlike Smelltic