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New Executive comittee to run the club

Discussion in 'Watford' started by Norwayhornet, Nov 15, 2011.

  1. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Well-Known Member

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  2. Bolton's Boots

    Bolton's Boots Well-Known Member

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    A bit like the Knights of the Round Table - without King Arthur!

    It looks to my unpractised eye to be a good mix - there appears to be a fair depth of knowledge of 'the business' as opposed to just 'business'. So, yes - a good move forward.

    Although I'm sure there'll be some, with more sense than me, who will disagree. :(
     
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  3. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Well-Known Member

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    What a lovely analogy BB from you I would expect nothing less ;) No sense here , so I agree with you <laugh>
     
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  4. oldfrenchhorn

    oldfrenchhorn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Interesting development, does this mean that ST is going to be taking a more hands on role?

    Are GT and Bas being sidelined for GT to be a figurehead and Bas being left to get on with development of the ground? Think we need to know more as to how much power this committee will actually have.

    Once again there are more questions and not too many answers, still early days yet.
     
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  5. wear_yellow

    wear_yellow Well-Known Member

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    I think the devil will be in the detail. Just how much power will this committee really have? Can they decide their own budgets and priorities for expenditure? Not sure just effective such a set-up can really be...
     
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  6. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Well-Known Member

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    It does indeed look as if Baz has stepped down and GT is preparing his exit :( we will learn more at the AGM I suppose!
     
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  7. Al the Hornet

    Al the Hornet Well-Known Member

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    <yikes> When is the AGM?
     
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  8. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Well-Known Member

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    12 december I think Al
     
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    I think this is madness.... and smacks of desperation..... where is the captain the ship is drifting etc <yikes> ?
     
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  10. Al the Hornet

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    It's only an iceberg<yikes>
     
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  11. Bolton's Boots

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    Captain of the ship - iceberg - Titanic - sounds like a cue for a one-hit-wonder!

    [video=youtube;ni2nUOpqGCc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni2nUOpqGCc[/video]
     
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    HaslemereKev Well-Known Member

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    While it is a good idea, I do think they need a Chief Executive to head this.
     
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  13. Norwayhornet

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    Agreed Kev , having too many people in the decision making process in some ways as bad as not having enough! This kind of exec committee as an advisory to a Julian Winter style CEO would be ok! imo!
     
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    wear_yellow Well-Known Member

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    Spot on Kev & Norway - Businesses need executive leadership and committee style management usually cannot make the necessary decisions quickly enough.
     
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  15. Roger68

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    I cannot believe that this is the new senior management structure that Timperley said was in process of being constructed in his Forum comments. It is not a credible senior management structure. It does not fill the "leadership vacuum". All these people have important jobs at the club which they need to focus on. I would expect them to be meeting as a team already to discuss priorities and forward movement for the club--but as this "committee" they cannot act as the final decision makers on big issues, and they are not qualified to do so. Neither can such a set-up act nimbly in a crisis. Bassini always wanted to be a hands -on manager--CEO in effect--, and claimed that by right of ownership. But he has given himself no role in this group. So--is he now putting himself on the sidelines? Why? In a fit of pique? Because he has been told to do so under threat of resignation by the non-execs? Because he recognises that he is inexperienced in football business and needs some help? Or does he intend to remain in charge, but behind the smokescreen of this "committee"? Secretive, impulsive and irrational--can you see him changing? Can you see any other outcomes than bad ones while he remains owner?

    I would only accept that this is a workable way of managing the club if Timperley came out and said that he had designed it and that GT endorsed it; I could then see that such a "committee" MIGHT work if it acted as a sounding board for a decision making board of directors, consisting of the current non-execs. In this way GT and Bassini are kept apart, and the the impulsive Bassini somewhat sidelined. But why should an owner effectively concede the running of his club, and the future of his investment, to others in this way?
     
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  16. Norwayhornet

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    I agree Roger it does seem "odd" ,but I hope that Baz has seen sense and sidelined himself ! Hopefully without being to co-erced or resentful!
    It is difficult to see how this is going to work , maybe Timperly is going to set himself up as ceo! or hopefully clearing the way for DF (although I dont see that happening)
     
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  17. cosmicslipperysteve

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    Can't see what the problem is really. Timperley heads the committee and so will be ultimately responsible and he has various heads of department partaking regularly in the meetings with "guests" at other times.

    Hopefully, Timperley will have a clear brief, budgets, restraints, goals, etc and this committee seems just another way of bringing accountability and responsibility down from the top of the pyramid to the Managers who actually run the departments.

    Watford won't be the first club/business to be run without regular involvement by the owner or part time chairman.

    Potentially, a good thing, in my view.
     
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  18. BerksHorn

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    Agree with Roger. I welcome the non-involvement of Baz in the decision making process but it seems inconceivable that he would have sanctioned this. Senior roles were made redundant precisely because Baz wanted to run the club himself so is he now acknowledging his inability to do so - if so, why not just appoint a CEO - or has this structure come about without much involvement from him. If the latter then I'm not sure this can be a good thing - an executive not aligned with the owner seems strange and there is no mention of this committee having to defer any decisions, even beyond a certain threshold, to the owner. If I owned the club I certainly wouldn't want it to work like that so you've got to ask what this means for Baz.

    It's like a bloody soap opera this.
     
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  19. Roger68

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    We knew where we were with previous owners, for good or ill. Simpson--majority shareholder, Chairman , very much hands-on in decision making--good influence at first,came unstuck by following his gamblers instinct, by trusting Ashton too much and falling out with manager and media. Russo's--majority shareholders, Chairman , keen to be hands -on in management, astute decisions initially, came unstuck by an excess of plotting when trying to gain complete control. Alienated GT and Ashcroft. Lord Ashcroft--majority shareholder and major creditor--never aspired to be a hands-on owner, but appointed a first class CEO with a clear mandate; gave him time to achieve it and sold the club with "safeguards"--that may yet be needed. Bassini-- sole owner, with opaque finances and motives, wants to be hands -on in management, yet does not want to be on the Board or act as Chairman. After a series of pr blunders and loss of credibility retreats behind a "management committee" . But what comes next? We have never had an owner like Bassini before.
     
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  20. Hornette_TID

    Hornette_TID Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    :( you paint a very bleak picture Roger...and i know you're right, i just feel that this committee has to be working in the right direction...rather than a sole owner who wants to take control and be hands on..and doesn't have a clue what he's doing..
     
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