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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by Doc, Jul 28, 2023.

  1. Jammy 07

    Jammy 07 Well-Known Member

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    Good job Bamford netted 16 times then otherwise we'd have missed out again.

    Tyler Roberts couldn't score, Eddie ****ed off back to the Arse and Augustin hardly featured.
     
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  2. Eireleeds1

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    I don’t find out till fifteen minutes before kick off. I’ll update you then
     
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  3. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    A goal every third game in a pub league. Wow
     
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  4. Jammy 07

    Jammy 07 Well-Known Member

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    Bamford also featured in 45 of the 46 League games that season.

    Of course he missed a few chances but there's no doubt he was a vital cog in our success.
     
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  5. NostradEmus

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    Even Bielsa said repeatedly that we were poor at scoring. The league average is 1 goal for every 3 chances created. We were scoring 1 goal for every 6 created. Bielsa said it continuously during his reign here that we had to create more chances than other teams because we were not clinical enough.

    16 goals in a promotion winning side that created the chances Bielsa did is not an outstanding return.

    We can't go in to this season relying on Bamford alone. He's a poor finisher and he is injury prone. Then you watch his body language. Not good enough.

    Ship him out.
     
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  6. Jammy 07

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    The point was though that Bamford contributed fully to promotion and neither you nor anyone else can take that away from him. He also had an excellent first season back in the PL.

    Now if we can find better for this coming season then great let's do it, but if not then we should get behind the player and help him find his mojo back.
     
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  7. NostradEmus

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    My point was that the article posted suggested Bamford got us out of the Championship. He didn't. He played a minor part in it. He should have played a major part if he'd converted even the league average.

    He consistently ends up top of the charts on big chances missed and has done for years. Its an area where the team is weak and I include the other players like Roofe, Roberts and Co. Our chance conversion over the last 5 or 6 years has been below average and he has been our focal point throughout that period. We need better.

    I'll point out again that his 1 good season (for which I gave him endless praise) was behind closed doors. No pressure. I saw him score a sublime hat trick for the u21s once in front of a few people and his finish on Thursday night was very very good but do you think he'd score that chance in a league game? I don't. When it matters he misses. He can't take the pressure. He can't take criticism from any fans as it affects his mental state. He's not for us mate. He can't do it.
     
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  8. milkyboy

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    It’s another year on mate. Who knows, you might finally workout what it means <cheers>
     
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  9. Eireleeds1

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    Not going anywhere. Nobody will have him
     
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  10. ristac

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    It wasn’t all about his goal distribution under Bielsa, we created so many chances because of the press, because of the style of play, because of the work rate. Without Bamford we wouldn’t have won promotion. Without Pablo we wouldn’t without Klich or Philips we wouldn’t have either. For the amount we paid we had a fantastic return, the comment by the other guy is basically saying £6m brought us a vital cog that won promotion. Compare what that £6m did to what the wasted millions did last season.

    Who would you sign as a striker, forget the Swansea guy, the asking price is £20m but he wants to stay at Swansea and run his contract down to move to Italy on a free. NewsNow is full of strikers we’re supposedly looking at and if you think Bamfords return rate is poor you’re going to be disappointed if any of these strikers we’re after join
     
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  11. Leedsoflondon

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    If I do, kill me now <laugh>
     
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  12. milkyboy

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    You want to know his xg, don’t you <laugh>
     
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  13. milkyboy

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    it’s all right bud, just have another sherry at the con club - a much better use of your time
     
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  14. ristac

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    True, but we are slowly getting there.<ok>
     
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  16. Jammy 07

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    His main problem is scoring with his right foot, or should I say the volume of chances he misses on his right side.

    Just out of interest does XG differentiate between a players strong and weak side when rating the scoring probability ?
     
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  17. Eireleeds1

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    It’s on FOOT03. Can you get that
     
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  18. Jammy 07

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    Dunno.

    What section is it listed under ?
     
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    Have typed it in the search bar and it's a no unfortunately.
     
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  20. Aski

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    From what I can recall then no, as I'm sure it doesn't differentiate between players either. If Mbappe missed a chance from 6 yards, the xg rating would be exactly the same as if Meslier had the exact same chance.

    No doubt Milky will correct me :)
     
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