1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

HOW WILL THE CHAMPIONSHIP 2023/24 END

Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by realred1952, Jul 5, 2023.

  1. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2017
    Messages:
    10,931
    Likes Received:
    4,109
    That’s not really accurate as Kalas and Wilson weren’t used at all last season, HNM had very little use, both Kalas (injury), and HNM (loan) , and possibly Wilson (still recovering from injury), weren’t available at the end of last season when we were so short of players . So Dickie , McCrorie, and Knight are 3 quality additions to our squad compared to the end of last season. We also Roberts, so that’s 4 more than we had towards the end of last season.
     
    #41
    Supcon72 likes this.
  2. Supcon72

    Supcon72 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2012
    Messages:
    9,612
    Likes Received:
    3,205
    Good point, although I think the point of the original post was, that if we get 2 or 3 injuries, as we did to the players you mention, we aren’t any stronger in depth?
     
    #42
  3. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    35,368
    Likes Received:
    6,993
    Transition is over, we have progressed squadwise, we have the quality and experience, now comes the ambition, this has got to be the season we break through, top six should be a target and obtainable, top half minimum , anything below would be a failure and not acceptable, dare I say back down to where we started.
     
    #43
    AshtonRed likes this.
  4. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    15,515
    Likes Received:
    4,392
    I'm sure Nige won't want to settle for mid table, but we have to be realistic. Unless we're fighting a relegation battle from the end of August we have to accept we are still a small fish is quite a big pond and we will need to scrap hard for every point.
    Yes you can point at Luton and what they achieved last year, but they are the exception not the norm, and there will be an awful lot of the 24 teams in the Championship with their eyes on a top 6 finish. We have to aspire at least to be one of them.
     
    #44
  5. Supcon72

    Supcon72 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2012
    Messages:
    9,612
    Likes Received:
    3,205
    Not sure what you mean by back to where we started? I assume you mean the disaster half season of Dean Holden (despite a golden start) before NP took over. Prior to that we were pretty much top 10 for 2-3 seasons.
     
    #45
  6. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    35,368
    Likes Received:
    6,993
    No mate, I will not engage with the LJ debate we are too far apart, you think he was great, I think he was absolute crap,we've moved on, season 2023/24 is upon us and alot of what you have expressed regarding this season I agree with and that's where I stand, it's the team of today that counts for me, I'm all for them and I'm hoping for what all of us wish that's a bloody successful season.
     
    #46

  7. realred1952

    realred1952 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2020
    Messages:
    9,604
    Likes Received:
    1,051
    :emoticon-0148-yes::emoticon-0148-yes::emoticon-0148-yes::emoticon-0148-yes::emoticon-0148-yes::emoticon-0148-yes:
     
    #47
    Supcon72 likes this.
  8. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2017
    Messages:
    10,931
    Likes Received:
    4,109
    It’s not about individuals, it’s a team game, look at Luton for example and Millwall over the years, towards the end of last season we were starting to really play as a team, if we continue in that vein with the additions we have I think we have as good a chance as anyone in the league
     
    #48
  9. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2017
    Messages:
    10,931
    Likes Received:
    4,109
    We have 2 players for every position now , that allows for injuries, apart from keeper and maybe DC till Atkinson returns, but we have plenty of cover there as well, as many double up , ie Pring can play CB and we have cover for LB now .
     
    #49
    Supcon72 likes this.
  10. bcfcredandwhite

    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2011
    Messages:
    10,777
    Likes Received:
    5,602
    Ooh Supcon - you still don’t get it do you.

    Successive top 10 finishes for LJ was a FAILURE
    One top 10 finish for Nige after 3 seasons is SUCCESS

    Write out the above 100 times until you remember it.
    (Must try harder)
     
    #50
  11. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2017
    Messages:
    10,931
    Likes Received:
    4,109
    Spot on, this season is fully NPs team, this is the season we must achieve
     
    #51
    Supcon72 likes this.
  12. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    35,368
    Likes Received:
    6,993
    please log in to view this image
    please log in to view this image

    Ooh bcfc you've got your spoons out again you naughty chap.
     
    #52
  13. realred1952

    realred1952 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2020
    Messages:
    9,604
    Likes Received:
    1,051
    not yet he hasnt! chickens and .......................
     
    #53
  14. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2017
    Messages:
    10,931
    Likes Received:
    4,109
    <laugh><laugh>
     
    #54
  15. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    8,888
    Likes Received:
    3,080
    Wouldn't expect anything else from the haters :emoticon-0103-cool: ................................progress!
     
    #55
  16. Supcon72

    Supcon72 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2012
    Messages:
    9,612
    Likes Received:
    3,205
    If we do, you can here the chorus on here now of, it’s all NP - which it should be, of course if we don’t, well you know how that goes…:headbang::headbang:
     
    #56
    oneforthebristolcity likes this.
  17. bcfcredandwhite

    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2011
    Messages:
    10,777
    Likes Received:
    5,602
    It’s not entirely NPs team Ashton - Weimann, Kalas and Wells are from the previous setup.
     
    #57
  18. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2017
    Messages:
    10,931
    Likes Received:
    4,109
    Kalas is no longer on our books, the other two may not have been his purchases but they’re part of his team now. Kalas would be too had he chose to accept the new contract offer.
     
    #58
    Supcon72 likes this.
  19. invermeremike

    invermeremike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    10,054
    Likes Received:
    1,756
    Whoever is on our books doesn't count in the you had better succeed this season Nigel stakes. He has had enough time to sort out the riffraff from the squad and now he must produce or pay the cost and he knows that fact I'm sure. How many more five year rebuilding plans must we accept before we say enough is not enough, because we are still waiting to get to that distant finishing line that our boss keeps dangling before our eyes?
     
    #59
  20. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2017
    Messages:
    10,931
    Likes Received:
    4,109
    Any manager is judged by results, however they have to be realistic. NP took over when we were in a pickle, therefore his objectives so far have been to sort out the mess and finish firstly above the drop zone, (in his first season), and then mid table (second season) , both these objectives were met, so far so good, he hasn’t exceeded his objectives, but he’s accomplished them. Now , this season his objective will be higher. My view is he needs to be around the playoffs and must finish minimum top 10, ideally top 6 and if we manage top 6, our objective must be reset, no good going into playoffs thinking we’ve done well to reach them, our objective at that point must be to set out to win promotion.
     
    #60

Share This Page