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Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

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  1. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    We all know it’s wrong but that’s totally different to the people you are having a go at. Do you honestly think things are going to change under Labour or any government for that matter, you and your lad will be exactly where you are now if you don’t do something about it yourself.
     
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  2. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    The disgraceful witch hunt against Boris continues <doh>

    That poor Chris Pincher has been unjustly suspended by those dark forces in another kangaroo court ...

    ... and here were us mugs thinking it was part of our democracy.

    I expect Mr Pincher will be joining that long list of Boris's friends who've had to 'resign to clear their names'.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-66115262

    1. Parliament's standards watchdog recommends an eight-week suspension for MP Chris Pincher
    2. Pincher, who was a Tory MP, quit his government role in June last year after allegedly assaulting guests at the Carlton Club in London
    3. The report says "we have found above that Mr Pincher groped [two people] ... and that this was unwanted, inappropriate, and upsetting"
    4. Boris Johnson's handling of the situation led to a wave of ministers resigning, and his downfall as PM
     
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  3. vic9

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    I’m not jealous or bitter about things in life, I deal with the cards I have been dealt and crack on
     
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  4. The Exile II

    The Exile II Well-Known Member

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    There are options. Increase income, adjust expectations. That takes work and self discipline, though.

    What do you think these affordable options should be, and how are they created?
     
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  5. The Exile II

    The Exile II Well-Known Member

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    At least the poor people under Labour would speak proper and not make us feel uncomfortable with their, ugh, regional dialect.

    If that's not an indicator that the new boss will be the same as the old boss.....
     
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    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    How do you increase income if you’re low skilled and employed. If you think life is that simple you are not worth engaging with.
    Here’s a quick response to your questions- invest in increasing social housing instead of pushing people towards the private rented sector, stabilise rent like they do in Europe so it can’t be increased and renters have rights. Give people stability so they can grow instead of giving private landlords riches.
     
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  7. The Exile II

    The Exile II Well-Known Member

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    Take steps to improve your skill base. Look for a better paying job. Go to night school. There's never been a better time to do it, companies are desperate to hire people.

    I'd argue that your thinking that a better life is just going to be handed to you without the need to take any individual action whatsoever is the simplistic viewpoint.

    I'm all aboard with your suggestions on rent, but a great deal of your thinking seems to be 'why have they got when I haven't'. Not everyone, I would suggest probably not even a majority, of people with money have inherited it or been given it through some kind of unfair advantage.

    Also - build a million social houses a year - how much of that will instantly be hoovered up by immigrants who come from actual rather than relative poverty and therefore need it more?
     
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  8. The Exile II

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    Starmer heckled at his big speech over climate, deep breath, U-TURNS.

    How Tory of him.
     
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    If it was about the £28bn green prosperity plan they were absolutely right to delay it due to the financial mess the economy is in…it’s not been scrapped I believe, rather pushed back to focus on more pressing issues like the debt level’s etc
     
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    Obviously I get the environment is a massive issue and something we need to invest in but it’s pointless if the economy is in ruins :emoticon-0100-smile

    Edit - pointless probably not the best word to use
     
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  11. The Exile II

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    Now now, we know the rules here ;)

    Regardless of whether it can be justified or not, whether the explanation for the decision makes sense or not, it's something that can be gleefully celebrated as a point for the blue team.

    And if you disagree you're defending the indefensible.

    I don't make these rules, I merely try to ensure they're applied correctly :)
     
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  12. Montysoptician

    Montysoptician Well-Known Member

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    I understand your frustrations but you are lashing out at usernames on a football message board and name calling is unnecessary and unfair. Posters on here can’t solve the problems that you mention, but they are free to comment on them just as you or I are. The vast majority of posters on this board are good people and would go out of their way to offer help, advice or a friendly ear as they have demonstrated on numerous occasions in the past.

    My political position is probably very close to yours but I also appreciate that others have the right to hold conflicting opinions and maybe we are just blinded a bit by dogma and can’t see them.

    Times are difficult for most people at the moment, but whatever situation I find myself in, I know that it is my responsibility to resolve it and howling at the moon doesn’t help.
     
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  13. Smug in Boots

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    Despite many people, perhaps everyone, agreeing that this government has been shameful, inept and divisive it seems many find it inconceivable that another administration might be even a little better.

    The only solution, it seems, is to completely reform the political system even though we all really know it won't happen. We're told we shouldn't accept the status quo and that we get what we deserve. I don't buy that either, we should expect a reasonably competent government ... certainly better than this one.

    Boris, Truss and Sunak have lowered our expectations below even that of Cameron or May who look like decent and earnest statesman compared to the embarrassments of the last few years.
     
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    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Wonder what they think sat there listening to the garbage spouted weekly now? Mind you I still believe Labour when they get In won’t reverse one or the horrendous policies the Tories put in place, and they will tell us any excuse why the can’t. I remember the revulsion they felt and spouted when they were getting a 11% pay rise and everyone else got zero, wonder how many of them turned it down, I can have a fairly accurate guess.
     
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    It's not so much the policies that bother me, they should be fairly similar no matter which party is in ...

    ... growth, investment, social care, etc.

    It's the blatant corruption, of the current government, that's sad, as well as the total disregard for the rules they've imposed on us. Johnson, Truss and now Sunak experiment with the economy, the NHS and social care because neither them, their friends or their families will ever come within a million miles of ever being affected by them or in need of them.

    It's us who pay the price and take the consequences ...

    ... and the country is in a mess imo, whether people can face that fact or not.

    Some can't and automatically defend everything no matter how hypocritical that is.
     
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    Montysoptician Well-Known Member

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    Spot on Smug, this voting system will be with us long after I have gone so I don't see any point in whinging about it.

    I watch a lot of parliament on TV when I am working at my computer and I can’t remember a more questionable rabble on either side of the house than we have at the moment. I am a Labour voter but have the utmost respect for some of the older statesmen like Kenneth Clarke, Michael Hestletine and Michael Portillo to an extent. If I am around in 20 years time, I don’t think I will remember any of this lot with the same affection.
     
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  19. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    I can barely remember them now. The only ones I can remember is because of how
    S hit they are.
     
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    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    I can’t believe there is anyone on here can still defend them they are the most shocking set of individuals who have ever run this country, mind it could be worse it might of been :emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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